Haha - nice catch Ben. I got burned. It's a sign of the speed at which
the tech business changes when a 31 year-old is made to feel old because
he remembers the days when vendors offered previous versions of Windows
for many years after the new versions were released...
 
P.S. I'm still not supporting Vista, for now. I'll try to hold out for 6
months at least. IT people in small offices, like myself, are forced to
wear many hats, and troubleshooting problems with a brand new OS ain't
gonna make it to my to-do list. 
 
- Jason L.
 


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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Barrett
        Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:26 PM
        To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group
        Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Narrowing Vistas, content
protection,hardware and the death of open source in the "consumer"
world.
        
        
        Re:  years from now... (see Jason's last line)   Bummer!  It has
been less than 60 days...
        didn't someone mention not being able to get XP from Dell
already? 
        
        ben
        
        
        
        On 12/29/06, Jason LaPier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


                After using and supporting XP for the last four years or
so, I'd have to admit, it doesn't BSOD as much as earlier versions of
Windows - in fact, even when I did see a BSOD it was hardware related
(bad memory, failing hard drive, etc). Anyway, I think the point of the
OP was that 98% of Windows users could use XP for the next 5 or 10 years
if they had to and not even blink (as long as their AV works and their
OS updates keep coming in) - there's no point in upgrading to Vista,
because Vista doesn't have anything additional to offer the web-surfing,
word-processing, mp3-playing, general pop. 
                 
                My biggest problem with OS X is lack of UI feedback.
Most of the time if an application crashes, it just goes away - ugly
error messages are hidden from the end-users, which both confuses the
user and makes support that much more of a pain. Does hiding the error
messages make the OS appear more stable to the end-user? I don't know.
Probably. I just wish there was a way to at least go into System Prefs
and check a box somewhere that would change that behavior. 
                 
                I've pretty much gotten to the point where I hate
Windows and OS X equally, but for entirely different reasons. When it
comes to user support, I find Windows easier to troubleshoot (the Event
Viewer beats the pants off the 'Console' and googling for Windows errors
yields solutions, whereas googling for Mac-related problems tends to
lead me to propaganda) but of course OS X has a much more intuitive
interface, cutting down on the "How do I" issues. So generally, in my
office I let the end-users pick their poison. I won't support Vista
until vendors like Dell no longer offer XP pre-installed, which I have a
feeling will be years from now.
                 
                - Jason
                 
                 
                
                

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                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:04 AM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Narrowing Vistas, content
protection,hardware and the death of open source in the "consumer"
world.
                        
                        
                        
                         I'd have to say you are talking about mac-users
there!
                        
                        
                        "2% of people are perhaps fortunate enough to
have it work all the time. Blessed are thosethat have never seen a blue
screen and/or never sworn at their computer." With of course the
exception that I had sworn at my computer at least a few times (mostly
for the lack of dual-releases on games and/or game developement tools).
I only wish apple spent as much time making developement suites (if they
made any at all) as easy to understand as they did the workings of their
os.
                        
                        -E
                        
                         
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        To: [email protected]
                        Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 7:49 PM
                        Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Narrowing Vistas, content
protection, hardware and the death of open source in the "consumer"
world.
                        
                        
                        That seems a gross over statement. Should be "XP
works sometimes
                        
                        for 98% of the people that use it". 
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        --- Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:mike.mikemiller%40gmail.com> > wrote:
                        
                        
                        
                        >XP works just fine for 98% of the people out
there. 
                        
                        > Miller
                        
                        >
                        
                        
                        
        
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