I did not intend to disable the electrical system, just turn off the
alternator. I have driven 60 miles at night with headlights on after my
alternator failed, so I know for a fact I can do this. I will of course
have to substitute a larger battery for full function if it proves to
work. The plan is to install a remote switch to turn the field winding
on and off, which of course will stop the alternator from producing any
current. The only question I still have is whether or not the alternator
will act as a load with the field de-energized. I doubt it, since they
almost all use full-wave bridge rectification, but I need to look.

In fact, it is better for a lead acid based battery to be charged and
discharged than to let it sit. At least, when I went to school we spent
a lot of time talking about charge-discharge cycles. The real enemy of a
lead-acid battery is drawing the cell voltages too low, e.g., less than
about 11.5 volts total battery voltage. 

The reason the alternator has such high current capacity is so it can
recharge the battery after starting the car. Considering that some
automobile starters can draw up to 100 amps or so for a few seconds, and
some folks maintenance habits are poor, resulting in a lot of cranking
to get their vehicle started, it is necessary to really overdesign the
alternator. 

It is true that the battery is there to start the car, but it also
serves as a sort of filtering device for the output of the alternator.
If you knew that you would only start your car twice a day, and that it
would start immediately each time, you could reduce the size of the
alternator considerably. My guess is that full-load on a small car with
high beams, etc., is probably around 10 - 20 amps. 

Why would you suggest running the alternator off the crankshaft? The rpm
is too low most of the time.

Great discussion. But I suspect people are growing tired of it, so
thanks for your comments.


Regards, Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Russell Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:17 PM
To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] hardware query...

Darrough, James wrote:
> My 1990 Geo Metro XfI averages 50 mpg. If I follow truckers closely, I
> can get as much as 60. I am trying to find ways to improve it, like
low
> rolling resistance tires and LED lamps in all the sockets, but during
> the really cold months, the snow tires are reducing my average mpg to
> around 48. Also toying with disabling the alternator and just charging
> the battery at home.
Drive the alternator off the crankshaft.

I think you will find that running much of anything requires the 
alternator unless you never drive more than 10 miles round trip at 
night, and about 30 during the day. Plan on replacing the battery about 
once a year, as lead acid batteries aren't designed to cycle that much.

The reason cars have a really big alternator and a relatively small 
battery is because the battery is for starting only. The alternator is 
for driving all the electronics. Unless you've retrofitted the engine 
with points, there are lots of electronics in your Geo/Suzuki.

But you knew that, didn't you? :)

Russ.
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