Chinese/American relations right now are pretty much at an all time high. President Jiang visited with Bush in Houston the other weekend. First stop, Johnson Space Center. Jiang is about to retire and is naming Hu Jianto (the vice-president) his successor. We’ll have to see how things go under him, but I expect similar to our experiences with Jiang.

 

Robert Crawley

Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc.

Programming

(936) 449-6823

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LARRY KLAES
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:16 PM
To: europa
Subject: Re: Reality Check Time

 

One major hurdle with working with China will be

political.  I doubt the US Government in its current

anti-foreign mode would want American people

being funded by and working with Chinese rocket

scientists. 

 

And no, I am not ignoring that Icepick folks come

from many countries, I am only speaking for those

from the USA and how I fear the Government might

react to the situation.

 

Of course the opposite might occur if the USA

wants at least the appearance of better relations

with China (note how they stopped being the new

"bad guys" after September 11, 2001) by having a

group of Americans working with China to explore

space, kind of a modern-day Apollo-Soyuz.

 

I am sure that down the road China has plans for

exploring beyond Luna and Mars.  Working together

might have all sorts of financial and political benefits.

 

And heck, it'll be a variation on giving Arthur C. Clarke

yet another space prediction come true via 2010:

Odyssey Two. :^) 

 

In the novel (but not the 1984 film version), the Chinese

beat the USA to Europa with a manned landing mission,

only to have it sink through the ice right as one of their

astronauts discover a life form swimming underneath the

ice towards the lander. 

 

Larry

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Reeve, Jack W.

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: Reality Check Time

 


I spent 4 of the last 5 years in China.  Cool people in the midst of a
renaissance.  Any pursuit which they can spin to make it appear that they
are actively entering the world community is one they'll look at.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Crawley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday 12 November 2002 08:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Reality Check Time


Chinese.

Robert Crawley
Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc.
Programming
(936) 449-6823

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Reeve,
Jack W.
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:33 AM
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CSA?  Are we referencing the California Space Authority, the Canadian Space
Agency or who?

Jack W. Reeve
Marketing Specialist
INTEQ Drilling Fluids
Houston, TX
Tel:      713 625 5525
Mob:    713 254 9673
Fax:     713 625 6001
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Crawley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday 12 November 2002 08:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Reality Check Time


My first choice would be the CSA over NASA.

Robert Crawley
Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc.
Programming
(936) 449-6823

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of A.J.
Mackenzie
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reality Check Time


--- Gail Leatherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Grantees don't just give away money. They want to
> see concrete evidence
> that their money is going to be well spent and
> administered properly (snide
> remark: Not like NASA!)

i hope that comment was made in jest.  ignorant people
like to pick on nasa for its perceived inability to
spend money wisely, but if you actually talk to the
people who work there, or get their money from nasa,
you'll get a different story.  it would be unwise to
make unprofessional and inaccurate comments about an
agency that is one of your most logical choices for
grant money.


-a.j.


ps: would you (and others) mind turning off the html
option when you post messages?  you may think it makes
your messages look nicer, but you're wrong. :)


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