we always leave traces... cos we document everything we do :-)

how about yeasts? i think the patent covers mamalian and plant cells, not
eukariotes in general? or am i wrong?

marc

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:02 PM, alexander murer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Wouldn't worry too much. The good part about patents on tools or processes
> is, that someone first has to prove that you used it. Crispr/CAS9 luckily
> doesn't leave any traces. Apart from that it's kind of rare that someone is
> going to sue you for non-commercial patent activities ;)
>
> Am 20.02.2017 um 12:22 schrieb Markus Schmidt:
>
> Hi folks
>
> Here is some new intel to keep you in the picture.
> Last week, US patent authorities granted eukaryote CRISPR patents to
> MIT/Harvard Broad Institue (prokaryotes are with UC Berkeley)
> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603662/patent-office-
> hands-win-in-crispr-battle-to-broad-institute/?goal=0_
> 997ed6f472-6ee82d4db4-153906933&mc_cid=6ee82d4db4&mc_eid=0b98007850
>  then shares of Editas Genetics, the start up that plans to use the
> patented tech for gene therapy, anti-aging etc jumped accordingly
> http://www.nasdaq.com/de/symbol/edit/interactive-chart?
> timeframe=5d&charttype=line
> And then Georg  Church, co founder of Editas proclaimed that with a few
> years CRISPR will be used to REVERSE aging (among others).
> http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/02/george-church-
> indicates-reversal-of.html?m=1
>
> The situation in Europe is no different, see e.g.
> https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP16742455
> Among the many patents registered at EPO.
>
> So folks, whatever you CRISPR in your kitchens, for the next 20 years or
> so  it will be DIY in the strict sense, for YOURSELF, with exceptions maybe
> for research or educatiuonal purposes, but not for others as that will be
> patent infringements - if you don’t plan to strike a deal.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Markus
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: Pieter van Boheemen <[email protected]>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2017 um 17:39
> An: <[email protected]>
> Cc: Markus Schmidt <[email protected]>, europe <
> [email protected]>, Biocommons <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: Accessible Bio Companies Back Up DIY Kits
>
> Great page Marc!
>
> Today I am recording a episode for national television on how to use the
> DIY crispr kit of The ODIN. It will be on TV some where late May early June
>
> http://pers.ntr.nl//programma/van_dna_tot_z/
>
> Let's see how Dutch regulators respond
>
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> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: Marc Dusseiller <[email protected]>
> Aan: Markus Schmidt <[email protected]>
> Cc: europe <[email protected]>, Biocommons <
> [email protected]>
> Verzonden: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:25:26 +0100 (CET)
> Onderwerp: Re: Accessible Bio Companies Back Up DIY Kits
>
> i guess we looked into making our kits... just to flush the net with funny
> pictures of these dangerous DIYbio stuff :-)
> hackteria.org/wiki/Make_you_own_CRISPR-Kit
>
> m
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Markus Schmidt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> One more by Gizmodo on the subject: http://gizmodo.com/
> germany-is-threatening-biohackers-with-prison-1792143993
>
>
> Von: Markus Schmidt <[email protected]>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2017 um 17:05
> An: <[email protected]>, Biocommons <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Accessible Bio Companies Back Up DIY Kits
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Great to see some good response. Here is some more food for thought with
> the potential for lively exchange of views and opinions.
>
> You might have seen the Warning by the German government institution to be
> careful when using DIYBio kits. The German „Bundesamt für
> Verbraucherschutz" has issued a warning for people who think about
> purchasing any of the available DIY kits for doing more than analytics, say
> synthetic stuff. In Make Magazine Germany they discuss who would be
> affected and several well known start-ups were mentioned.
>
> Warning by Bundesamt für Verbraucherschutz
> http://www.bvl.bund.de/DE/06_Gentechnik/04_Fachmeldungen/
> 2017/2017_01_25_DIY-Kits.html
> And Make article
> https://www.heise.de/make/meldung/Biohacking-Bundesamt-
> warnt-vor-Do-It-Yourself-Kits-3616860.html
>
> Today, two of the affected US “Accessible Bio” companies, Amino and
> Biorealize, have issued a statement responding to the warning, titled
> Accessible Bio Companies Back Up the Importance of “Criminal” DIY Kits for
> the Future of Science Education
> see for yourself:
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/accessible/bio/prweb14053058.htm
>
> Cheers, Markus
>
>
>
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