Hi All, Thanks Rolf and John for your feedback. I share your positive opinions about the Berlin edition outcome and the disappointment for not repeating it in Berlin in 2015.
As John mentioned, 2014 was very stressful for both the local organisers and the EPS. Things didn't run well and smoothly as expected and I think that we can say almost everyone is/was disappointed. IMHO the best thing we can do as an open community run by volunteers is to learn from mistakes, have a positive attitude, fix our bugs and work to make a successful future. Sharing a quote that I've heard recently: "Successful community engagement starts (and ends) with humility. I've heard it said that 'pride is concerned with who is right, while humility is concerned with what is right". Although I'd have loved to have 2015 event in Berlin again and have tried to make it happen, it was just not possible. I prefer spending my volunteering time on what I think is right (try to make sure that EuroPython can have a successful future and a 2015 edition as well). Hopefully we will see another great EuroPython edition in Berlin again in the future to come. Best wishes, Fabio 2014-12-21 13:08 GMT+01:00 John Pinner <funth...@gmail.com>: > Hello Rolf, > > On 21 December 2014 at 10:32, Rolf Hemmerling <hemmerl...@gmx.net> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > the Europython 2015 was originally announced to be in Berlin, Germany - > Why > > now this move to Bilbao, Spain ? > > > > I was very satisfied on the EuroPython 2014 in Berlin, > > And so was I. > > > both with the organisation, the prices and the user-generated contents ( > > speeches, workshops, networking, evening events,.. ). > > Agreed, the local organisers did a first-class job. I was looking > forward to coming to EP 2015 in Berlin, and this time I'd promised to > take my wife with me. > > > > > I read: > > > http://blog.europython.eu/post/105258883217/europython-2015-submitted-proposal > >> > >> The EuroPython Society (EPS) is happy to announce that we have received > >> the amended proposal from the ACPySS team in Spain to hold EuroPython > 2015 > >> in Bilbao, Spain. We had been discussing questions with them in the last > >> couple of days. > >> On-site Team Proposal > > > > as news of > > 2014-12-03 and 2014-12-15 on Facebook > > https://www.facebook.com/europython > > > > And I am dissatisfied if there is a break in the rule, that an Europython > > conference is now not taking 2 times at the same place in consequent > > years... > > This was never a rule, but a custom, for example we were only one year at > CERN. > > > > > Especially I did not hear ANYTHING from the German organizers of > Europython > > 2014, about the progress or stop of preparation of Europython 2015... > > This became clear at the meeting of the EP Society at EP14, a sad > affair. It became apaprent taht realtions between the head organisers > of EP14 and the board of the EuroPython Society had broken down, the > board wanted new applications to hold EuroPython 2015 and the head > organisers of the 2014 Conference no longer wished to hold the 2015 > event. At the EPS meeting, the attitude of the head organisers came > across as very negative. Note that I say 'head' as far as I could see > the local troops were over-whelmingly positive. > > That's just how it all came across to me, a former EuroPython > organiser. Subsequently we attempted to hold an online "EuroPython > Reboot" meeting during Pycon UK, attempting to reapir some of the > damage, but technology and restricted bandwidth did not help us. > > > > > ***************** > > I am NOT a member of the "Europython" society, > > but I hereby can just claim my NEGATIVE opinion about not happening the > > Europython 2015 in Berlin. > > ***************** > > I do agree, however we can all be grateful that the Spanish San > Sebastien team have made a fine proposal which will ensure that we > have a fine EuroPython 2015. > > Looking forward to Bilbao! > > Bestw ishes, > > John > -- > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython-Improve mailing list > EuroPython-Improve@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve > -- Fabio Pliger *linkedin* http://it.linkedin.com/in/fabiopliger *twitter* http://twitter.com/b_smoke
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