Well, the discussion has gone meta so I'd like to get off the list. If it was a Google Group I'd know how, but apparently there's some uncertainty as to whether
Unsubscribe Works or not. -- Bruce Eckel On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Paul Boddie <p...@boddie.org.uk> wrote: > On Friday 17 July 2009 18:13:20 Michael Sparks wrote: > > > > You can use google groups in way that suffers from less spam though. > > You can set it such that anyone subcribed to the list can post without > > moderation and that people outside can post but is moderated. You can > > also set it such that anyone's *first* post to the list is moderated, > > and finally you can also delete spam. > > I administer a Google group in this fashion, but it took a while for Google > to > implement what I would call an optimal solution: someone joins and tries to > spam; I have a button labelled "spam" that I can press and it not only > deletes the message but also bans the person. > > > That said, there are some people apparently who don't like google > > groups for reasons I've not heard well articulated, which never made > > sense to me so I'll leave it to them to articulate :-) > > I use Google Groups to read newsgroups and, well, Google discussion groups. > However, I like the Mailman stuff, and the Web archives are very clean and > readable with only slight problems with non-plain text or non-standard > messages that appear once in a while. Also, anyone can download the > archives > for this and other lists from python.org which might be a problem for some > people with regard to spam, but it gives a degree of flexibility and data > portability that I don't think you get with Google. > > > Also, unlike python.org, google groups doesn't reject my normal mailer > > (kmail+exim, etc). (This is the reason I'm really paying attention to > > the concurrency sig since it was decided to move it to python.org, > > since it's a PITA to have to use a web mail system to post to it.) > > Is this some kind of blacklisting or greylisting going on? I had problems > with > python.org addresses until it was pointed out that my mail provider wasn't > following good practices around Internet mail (and my clueless ISP was > getting itself repeatedly blacklisted). After switching providers I haven't > had a problem since. > > > That said, personally I'm +1 on the idea. > > For me it's a -1. They had people in the Openmoko community asking for > forums > and most people were able to live with a Nabble front-end to the list once > that was set up. I agree with Christian: people can easily set up a > front-end > for python.org lists if they want. > > Paul > > P.S. Forums can be the absolute worst if searching for stuff on the > Internet > is any indication, often dredging up content-free exchanges accompanied by > countless animated "avatars" repeated all the way down the page, usually > portraying some Japanese cartoon hero/heroine, while the participants seem > to > compete on how many animated smileys/emoticons they can include in their > typically meaningless messages. Let us hope that discussions around > EuroPython never reach that level! > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython >
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