Bruce Eckel wrote:
Well, the discussion has gone meta so I'd like to get off the list. If
it was a Google Group I'd know how, but apparently there's some
uncertainty as to whether
Unsubscribe
Works or not.
It doesn't - but following the link at the bottom of the email should
allow you to unsubscribe.
Michael
-- Bruce Eckel
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Paul Boddie <p...@boddie.org.uk
<mailto:p...@boddie.org.uk>> wrote:
On Friday 17 July 2009 18:13:20 Michael Sparks wrote:
>
> You can use google groups in way that suffers from less spam though.
> You can set it such that anyone subcribed to the list can post
without
> moderation and that people outside can post but is moderated.
You can
> also set it such that anyone's *first* post to the list is
moderated,
> and finally you can also delete spam.
I administer a Google group in this fashion, but it took a while
for Google to
implement what I would call an optimal solution: someone joins and
tries to
spam; I have a button labelled "spam" that I can press and it not only
deletes the message but also bans the person.
> That said, there are some people apparently who don't like google
> groups for reasons I've not heard well articulated, which never made
> sense to me so I'll leave it to them to articulate :-)
I use Google Groups to read newsgroups and, well, Google
discussion groups.
However, I like the Mailman stuff, and the Web archives are very
clean and
readable with only slight problems with non-plain text or non-standard
messages that appear once in a while. Also, anyone can download
the archives
for this and other lists from python.org <http://python.org> which
might be a problem for some
people with regard to spam, but it gives a degree of flexibility
and data
portability that I don't think you get with Google.
> Also, unlike python.org <http://python.org>, google groups
doesn't reject my normal mailer
> (kmail+exim, etc). (This is the reason I'm really paying
attention to
> the concurrency sig since it was decided to move it to
python.org <http://python.org>,
> since it's a PITA to have to use a web mail system to post to it.)
Is this some kind of blacklisting or greylisting going on? I had
problems with
python.org <http://python.org> addresses until it was pointed out
that my mail provider wasn't
following good practices around Internet mail (and my clueless ISP was
getting itself repeatedly blacklisted). After switching providers
I haven't
had a problem since.
> That said, personally I'm +1 on the idea.
For me it's a -1. They had people in the Openmoko community asking
for forums
and most people were able to live with a Nabble front-end to the
list once
that was set up. I agree with Christian: people can easily set up
a front-end
for python.org <http://python.org> lists if they want.
Paul
P.S. Forums can be the absolute worst if searching for stuff on
the Internet
is any indication, often dredging up content-free exchanges
accompanied by
countless animated "avatars" repeated all the way down the page,
usually
portraying some Japanese cartoon hero/heroine, while the
participants seem to
compete on how many animated smileys/emoticons they can include in
their
typically meaningless messages. Let us hope that discussions around
EuroPython never reach that level!
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