Hi, On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Giovanni Bajo <giova...@pycon.it> wrote:
> > Il giorno 07/feb/2014, alle ore 02:47, Samet Atdağ <sam...@gmail.com> ha > scritto: > > So there were two major costs (except my holidays) : (plane tickets + > hotel) and registration fee. I used to live in a fairly close country to > Italy, (Turkey) so plane tickets were around 200-300€. If we ignore daily > expenses (like food, beers etc.) half of all costs would be the > registration fee (which was around 300€). > > > Just to set the record straight, the early bird, personal, full ticket > (inc. training) was €240 in 2012/2013. It didn’t include access to the > conference dinner, which was €40 (the conference dinner is included in > EP2014). The lite ticket (without training) was €190. > > I talked to a lot of people in EP2012 and there were only a few people > paying the costs. Others were supported by their companies. > > > Again, just to put hard numbers out, the split between company, personal > and student tickets in 2013 was 45%, 45%, 10% respectively (I don’t have > the records here, so I’m quoting off the top of my mind, but it should be > correct). I wouldn’t represent EuroPython as a conference where most people > are being paid by their employer. > Thanks for numbers. People buy personal tickets and companies pay cash to them. This happens. So I guess number of employee-supported people might be higher than 45%. I agree on that EP is not that type of conference, but if this increasing trend in fees continues, than less and less individuals will have opportunity of attendance. > > Then PSF kindly paid my costs in 2013 for PyCon. This year PyCon will be > in Montreal, I can't attend because of dates. And I can't attend Europython > because I'm not supported by any company, I missed early bird tickets and > 400€ is not cheap. > > > Please notice that there is a financial aid program for EuroPython as well: > https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/registration/financial-assistance/ > > and you’re welcome to apply. > Having this opportunity always make me feel that I'm in a great community. It would be great to be able to afford the registration fee as a full-time employee. > > I want to attend Python conferences. But if registration fees are > expensive, it'll be like a private party, less number of people will show > up and probably individuals not supported by any company will miss the fun. > I'll miss the fun. > > > I understand your frustration. The main issue with the price is always > venue costs, and venues tend to get proportionally more expensive as the > conference grows. We could probably get a very cheap venue holding max 200 > people, and sell tickets for €100 each. Would that make the conference less > or more inclusive? Obviously, there would be wider range of people that are > able to afford the conference, but at the same time there would be less > tickets available, it would get sold out in less than a day, and the sale > would sound like a gamble. > I see and understand the point. Sorry for my ignorance, do we know how PyCon handles bigger crowds? (If I remember right, PyCon registration was 300$ last year.) > Nonetheless, we understand that there is a strong feeling that the current > prices are "beyond the threshold" for some people. Thanks for your honest > feedback, it is valuable. > Thanks for understanding complaining people. By the way, Giovanni, EP2012 was awesome. > -- > Giovanni Bajo > Python Italia APS > > EuroPython 2014 > https://ep2014.europython.eu > > Samet Atdag
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