-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Armin Rigo wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > On 8 February 2014 08:14, Andreas Jung <li...@zopyx.com> wrote: >> At least the organization team has a financial plan and a budget >> and it is _obvious_ to every child that can calculate that you can >> not sell an undetermined number of tickets to a reduced price over >> some fixed period if you don't want to run over your budget. > > Andreas, this tone seems unsuitable to me. Are you calling the > organizers of all previous EuroPython conferences childs that can't > calculate? Are you calling childish all previous Pythoneers that > naively expect a similar model in this EuroPython than what they are > used to? If you are, you're alienating them very quickly. You are > not explaining how previous EuroPythons managed to do it while your > team doesn't.
First I commented only on Jacob de Vera's expectations about what early bird means. Second: it is obvious that there is a certain financial risk organizing such a big conference with a budget of several hundred thousand euros. So what is please your point with this approach? Do you expect that we sell an unlimited amount of discounted tickets with the risk of a financial loss? Do you expect that the standard and ondesk prices would remain the same with this approach? Of course everyone wants cheap tickets but the costs per person for location, catering etc. remain the same and must be paid by someone. Once again: having a limited number of tickets for a reduced price is not uncommon for conferences. The amount of tickets and their prices depend a lot of the location and local costs. If you are interested in the calculation for the conference then please contact the finance team - we have nothing to hide. Regarding "this tone": calling use "very unprofessional" or comments like "pigheaded" from some other person is not very helpful and motivating for the people working very hard at the moment. Everyone is invited helping us making this the best and largest EuroPython ever - but *please* don't shoot us continuously in the back. Thanks Andreas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQGUBAEBAgAGBQJS9hCiAAoJEADcfz7u4AZj3EMLvRPiflFHj2VBUZtxnEL5+LDL 8TSduTDO4EuXklgr1NmzKbFGkgX9TyeGlF+vT7uTZO8KnelN5yqDsRDyZYkq76OS 0QH8Iw5iBjeVUoU0P/vkpF8p1+sS0Fg1lDeVBTTknnC7TXluXcuFs+jg3rXHxTsm WXZjjHYc9yBj2MO91SNfsPEEmn/TMIndWHWACqD9sLJIuZNtfR1k6eO+9wdUS0ap EUg7O0DO8XTxtNiJpdN5swBgmzgh4hKMV2lvPlk4Rx2O7dZsZtanPKrYPyCo0bGh dR/gvoksXKWyDHxtP7YEYvY9iq18SGC/ZtuUJWRV9KLp+lCf0DjRft1T4ypnQyor 2moMpeL2QT+jg7e/Qq7cI2XsgTZW/rECZx1H0epBm7JPlsQelCbgOWmhaQxuH1sA 4HkzPZATmS7udP7zes1gpGsU4pdRiHjs+ykxO3qi44txd0blGZipOSL/ZS8ZpKU+ 8IvHKlUJ9J60rAysKqczniMtWfxGZqA= =0z6W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython