Mark Dodrill wrote:

> I'm pretty sure I'm pushing the thermal limits of the motor as
it is.  I
> live in an area with lots of hills, so even keeping the motor
speed up to
> keep the cooling fan working well isn't enough.
>
> Perhaps someone can tell me what temp levels are okay, and what
is too
> high--case temp, and brush temp is about all I can measure
given how the
> motor is installed.

When I asked Otmar about sensing motor temperatures, I found out
that unless you have a dragster (such as I have a lo-perf 96V
street car), the case temperature is the way to go, and a lot
less complex than trying to measure brush temperatures.  Otmar
indicated a case temperature of 150-degF is as high as the motor
should go.  The ADC 8" motor, and probably the 6.7" motor as
well, has an open threaded hole in the case.  We went to the VW
shop, purchased a water temperature coolant sensor, replaced the
thermistor in the sensor with a different one from Allied
Electronics, and last but not least machined up a little brass
adapter to fit the VW sensor into the ADC hole.  We then hooked
this up to the Rabbit's stock temperature gauge wires.  We had to
make an addition, though, that I wasn't planning on, which was to
add 15.4 ohms of resistance to the circuit, as the current in the
temp gauge circuit was apparently overpowering the thermistor.
So now I have a temp gauge reading just at the bottom of the red
band when the case temperature hits about 150-degF.

If your motor gets real hot, like you can't hold your hand on it,
you need to get something done about it (fan)!  There is probably
an internal switch in the motor that you can use to turn on a
light on the dash, but I don't know what temp this triggers, but
it's most likely signifiicantly above 150-degF.

Chuck Hursch
Larkspur, CA
www.geocities.com/nbeaa

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