On 5 Oct 2002 at 8:43, mechelaere wrote: > - garages dealers + personel make anti- publicity > when you ask about them .
It sounds like PSA is cooperative, but their dealers are not. > - nicads (100 Ah give problems after 10.000 to 30.000km. This is not the first time I've heard about problems with the Safts in the PSA vehicles. I wonder if the charging algorithm is faulty. Axel Krause of Brusa has 80,000km on his Mini-Evergreen with 180 volts' worth of these modules, and they are still delivering full capacity. It may also be a temperature problem. Nicads aren't as touchy as NiMH, but they don't like heat. Cycle life begins to suffer at ambient temperatures over 30 deg C, and IMO they really shouldn't be used at all when the temp hits 40 deg C. In a relatively low-voltage application (120 volts), the higher current would exacerbate any heat problem. > when one nicad is bad they switch a part(box) of the pack (boxes) This isn't too surprising. As I understand it, the battery trays are assembled at Saft, and they probably want to carry out any repairs required. Saft also assembled the trays for the Pivco Citibees, and the modules were GLUED into the trays. > + doing a special equalisation charge costs 250$ There were similar complaints about the Think in California. It does seem excessive. > - speed in the city is enough but on the highway's around Paris > standard speed is 110km/h.Driving at 80KM/h is dangourous and > shortens range ... Same problem here. > -nicads seemed to be banned in a few years due to environimental > cadmium reason > - garages do not know what to do with old nicads and often throw > them away with lead batteries This is a grave concern. The recycling facilities are available and the law prohibits improper disposal. It sounds like the workshops doing the service have been poorly trained. Again, exactly the same problem has afflicted EV pilot programs in the US. > I ended up with a total dismantled car without batteries. Can you not rent the batteries yourself? Thank you for the synopsis of the European EV situation. I wish it were a more positive one, but at least we know more about it now. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Want to unsubscribe, stop the EV list mail while you're on vacation, or switch to digest mode? See http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA 1991 Solectria Force 144vac 1991 Ford Escort Green/EV 128vdc 1970 GE Elec-trak E15 36vdc 1974 Avco New Idea rider 36vdc = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Thou shalt not send me any thing which says unto thee, "send this to all thou knowest." Neither shalt thou send me any spam, lest I smite thee. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
