EV Digest 3899
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Deka intimidator
by Jeff Shanab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Dave Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Bob Siebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Jessica & Donald Jansen & Crabtree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Ed Koffeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Seth Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Peri Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by billb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Roderick Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Mike Chancey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
16) Re: Galvanic Corrosion
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
18) Re:EVDL poll where do you live?
by "a.k. howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Sherry Boschert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Re:EVDL poll where do you live?
by Otmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Roy LeMeur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
23) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Nick Viera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Tim Clevenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Klemkosky, Mark A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Richard Furniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29) Re: EVDL poll where do you live?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
30) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Paul G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
31) New Tires for the Jeep
by Nick Viera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
32) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Justin Southam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
33) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "MYLES ANTHONY TWETE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
34) Re: New Tires for the Jeep
by Seth Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
35) Interstate Battery
by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
36) Selling Toyota MR2 power steering pump on ebay
by "August Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
37) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Claudio Natoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
38) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Matt Trevaskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
39) RE: New Tires for the Jeep
by "Roger Stockton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
40) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by keith vansickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
41) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Ken Trough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
42) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Roger Stockton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
43) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Steve Clunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
44) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "M.G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
45) Re: 50A 230V connectors
by "Steve Clunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
46) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
47) Re: Ideas for EV school visit
by Bob Bath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
48) RE: Ideas for EV school visit
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
49) Re: spam: RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by Mike Chancey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
50) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
51) RE: New Tires for the Jeep
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
52) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by EV DL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
53) RE: EVDL poll where do you live ? Ken Map
by Rod Hower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
54) Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "SCOTT O'QUINN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
55) RE: spam: RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
by "Don Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Fresno, California
Maybe you could find someone in fresno with a small pickup(like me :-)
) that would pick them up and drive to meet you in santa nella and
exchange the load.
or use LTL. AS long as you have a dock to recieve or a forklift.
I waiting on some money to get my first set of batteries for my first
EV. I am very interested in how the Deka intimidators work out.
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Danny Ames wrote:
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
Watertown, NY
Alfred, NY
Columbia, PA
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Hi,
I live in northwest Washington, DC.
Steve Love
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From: "Eric Poulsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
> Aliso Viejo, CA in Orange County, about 40 mi south of LA
>
>
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Glen Burnie, Maryland
From: Danny Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: EV SEND MSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EVDL poll where do you live ?
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:11:09 -0500
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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I live in Tenino WA, about 20 miles south of Olympia.
Pat Sweeney
88 E-Fiero
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I live in Orange, California, about 5 miles from Disneyland and 50
miles from AC Propulsion. I wish it was reversed.
/Bob
On Saturday, November 6, 2004, at 04:11 PM, Danny Ames wrote:
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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Hi-
Burien, Wa. Just south of Seattle.
Father Time
Danny Ames wrote:
> It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
> countries EVDL members are in.
> Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
> I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
> A few of you I have met this way.
> Cheers,
> Danny Ames
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Midlothian, TX
About 1/2 hour south of Dallas
Ed Koffeman
'91 Geo EV
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Concord, NH
about 70 miles north of Boston, Massachussetts, USA, 60 miles north of
Solectria.
Seth
On Nov 7, 2004, at 11:02 AM, Jessica & Donald Jansen & Crabtree wrote:
Hi-
Burien, Wa. Just south of Seattle.
Father Time
Danny Ames wrote:
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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Seattle, about 8 blocks N of the Space Needle.
Peri
Danny Ames wrote:
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
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Reno Nevada, with 4 EVs and a friend also here has one. Bill Brinsmead
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Hello to All,
> Danny Ames wrote:
>
> > It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
> > countries EVDL members are in.
> > Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
Portland, Oregon, the epicenter of hi pro EVs.
Example: The post Woodburn scene found me confused about which EV to take to
the grocery
store...hmm, should I take Blue Meanie, White Zombie, or simply hop in
California Poppy?
Man, what a dilemma! On this day, I chose California Poppy, launching onto
Glisan Street
with both back tires squealing in protest with my head firmly banging back
against the
thin 914 seat back. Within seconds, I was way over the speed limit as more than
1000 ft.
lbs. of combined electric torque motivated me along.
See Ya....John Wayland
Having more fun than any EVer should be allowed to have!
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I live in Port Townsend, Washington State, USA, located on the tip of
the Quimper Peninsula where the big water comes into the US from the
Pacific Ocean called the Straights of Juan de Fuca dividing Canada
from the US and then turns south, called Puget Sound. Port Townsend
is on the tip of land on the inside left corner of the confluence.
The Northwest is the "True" epicenter of high performance EVs with
"Father Time's" many creations, the home of "Madman" Rich Rudman, the
famous tire shredder and builder of the bad ass PFC chargers and the
long time amp sucker, me.
Roderick Wilde
Suck Amps EV Racing
www.suckamps.com
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Phone: 360-385-7966 Fax: 360-385-7922
P.O. Box 221, 107 Louisa Street
Port Townsend, WA 98368
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I'm here in Kansas City, Missouri. KC's central location means we are both
closest to all EV activities while being the farthest from any EV
activities. .
Thanks,
Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
'95 Solectria Force
Kansas City, Missouri
EV List Photo Album at: http://evalbum.com
My Electric Car at: http://www.geocities.com/electric_honda
Mid-America EAA chapter at: http://maeaa.org
Join the EV List at: http://www.madkatz.com/ev/evlist.html
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Saint Helena, CA, in the center of the Napa Valley.
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Ryan Bohm wrote:
> I've been using steel rivets in aluminum sheets... joining aluminum
> and steel can be a problem due to galvanic corrosion. My question:
> Is my car going to disinegrate if I use steel rivets in aluminum?
Eventually, yes. Wherever steel and aluminum meet and get wet, the
aluminum will corrode. The rate depends on how long it stays wet, and
whether there are any impurities in the water (like battery acid or road
salt).
It may be too late for it, but you can try painting it with some kind of
material that will soak into the joint, to fill the voids and keep water
off. It would almost have to be some oil-based paint or undercoating
material.
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citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever
has!" -- Margaret Mead
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I live in Fountain Valley CA. about 9 miles south of Dizzyland
Jim Ludiker owner, driver of the second quickest electric dragster in the
world......behind Dennis of course.
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I live in Las Vegas, Nevada, one mile from the Strip.
Regards, A.K. Howard, Member Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association. Living
the good life at 8 cents per kwh.
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San Francisco, Calif.
Sherry
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Palo Alto, Kalifornia, Divided States of Illusion.
We used to have the highest density of privately owned highway
capable EV's. But that was years ago, I haven't counted lately.
Is anyone making a web page of this? Or collecting it?
Sure would be cool to see the reach of the EV list in a graphic manner.
The sun is out. Maybe I'll jump in California Poppy and blast up the
hills to a good hiking spot before I start assembling Zillas for the
day.....
Have fun!
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-Otmar-
http://www.CafeElectric.com/ Home of the Zilla.
http://www.evcl.com/914 My electric 914
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Olympia, Washington
Danny Ames wrote:
It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
countries EVDL members are in.
Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
A few of you I have met this way.
Cheers,
Danny Ames
Roy LeMeur Olympia, WA
My Electric Vehicle Pages:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evpage.html
Informative Electric Vehicle Links:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/evlinks.html
EV Parts/Gone Postal Photo Galleries:
http://www.casadelgato.com/RoyLemeur/page01.htm
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Las Vegas NV
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Corvallis, OR
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I live in San Antonio, Texas. That puts me about 70 miles south-west of
Austin and the rest of the AustinEV group :-).
-Nick
1988 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 EV
http://Go.DriveEV.com/
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On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 20:48, Christopher Robison wrote:
>
> Quite a few of us here in the AustinEV group (Austin, Texas USA)...
>
> --chris
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Crestline, CA
Tim
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> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:11:09 -0500
> From: Danny Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: EV SEND MSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: EVDL poll where do you live ?
>
> It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
> countries EVDL members are in.
> Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
> I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
> A few of you I have met this way.
> Cheers,
> Danny Ames
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Hi,
I live in Portsmouth Virginia.
Richard Caruthers
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Chandler AZ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sun Nov 07 12:34:50 2004
Subject: Re: EVDL poll where do you live ?
Hi,
I live in Portsmouth Virginia.
Richard Caruthers
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Lost Wages, NV
Richard Furniss
http://lasvegasev.com
Las Vegas, NV
Board Member, www.lveva.org
Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association
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I live and race in Phoenix, but will be traveling lots next year with the CE.
Dennis Berube
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Everett WA, about 15 miles north of Seattle. There is a number of
EVers in the area, plus I can take a ferry ride to EV parts in Port
Townsend.
Paul "neon" Gooch
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Hi,
I'm trying to improve the range of my electric Jeep Cherokee. So I've
been thinking about buying low rolling resistance tires for it. What
tires or tire brands have others had good luck with?
The Jeep still has Fisk Classic P225/75/R15 M+S tires on it, which it
has had since before the conversion. I had to pump them up to their max
pressure of 35PSI as they bulged some on the bottom otherwise. Also,
since the Jeep now weights around 4,000lbs., will the weight be a
problem when selecting new tires?
Thanks
-Nick
1988 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 EV
http://Go.DriveEV.com/
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about 10,000km south SW of LA.
Wellington, New Zealand
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Southeast Portland, Oregon---5 miles SW of Wayland Manor...
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Michelin Energy (green) MXV+ are costly but are probably the cheapest
way to get 10% more range or more. Some Goodyear Eagle LS tires will
perform similarly but they ride like iron and are very noisy. IMO
That sounds like a reasonable size. I know Sam's club carries them,
and they were cheaper than the Tire Rack.
Seth
On Nov 7, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Nick Viera wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to improve the range of my electric Jeep Cherokee. So I've
been thinking about buying low rolling resistance tires for it. What
tires or tire brands have others had good luck with?
The Jeep still has Fisk Classic P225/75/R15 M+S tires on it, which it
has had since before the conversion. I had to pump them up to their max
pressure of 35PSI as they bulged some on the bottom otherwise. Also,
since the Jeep now weights around 4,000lbs., will the weight be a
problem when selecting new tires?
Thanks
-Nick
1988 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 EV
http://Go.DriveEV.com/
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Hey all:
Has any one ever used or have an opinion on an Interstate battery SRN-27 deep
cycle Mega-Tron battery? I have a car that it could work in, but would rather
not buy a problem battery. FYI - I would use 10 12vdc for a 120vdc single
string. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Jim
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I'm selling the MR2 power steering pump that I bought a couple years
ago. I bought it because I was going to build and EV, instead I bought
Otmar's Sprint. It's listed as # 7933330981 on ebay.
August Johnson
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About 30 kms (20 miles) west of Sydney, Australia
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Penzance (as in Gilbert & Sullivan's "Pirates of Penzance")
Cornwall, UK
7 miles from Land's End (the south-western tip of the UK)
30 miles from the Eden Project (the bio-dome location used in the latest
Bond film)
Matt
1999 Peugeot Scoot'elec 24,000km (presently off the road with suspected
battery failure)
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> On Nov 7, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Nick Viera wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to improve the range of my electric Jeep
> > Cherokee. So I've been thinking about buying low
> > rolling resistance tires for it. What tires or tire
> > brands have others had good luck with?
Toyo 800 Ultra <http://www.toyocanada.com/products/800Ultra.html>.
It is not specifically advertised as a low rolling resistance tire, but
it does roll quite nicely and delivers great fuel economy on ICE
vehicles. The 160,000km/100,000mi treadwear warranty and 44psi
inflation limit are both nice features.
> > Also, since the Jeep now weights around 4,000lbs., will the
> > weight be a problem when selecting new tires?
The P225/75R15 Toyo 800 Ultra has a load rating of 102, which is
1874lbs, so there would be no problem.
Roger.
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Ramona californai, near san diego,
kEVs
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I'm going to create a global map with names and email addresses. I'll
post a link when I'm done.
-Ken Trough
Admin - V is for Voltage Megasite
http://visforvoltage.com
AIM - ktrough
FAX - 801-749-7807
message - 866-872-8901
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Vancouver (well, Coquitlam to be precise), BC, Canada.
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Fort Pierce Florida ,
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I also live in Pittsburgh PA. And I'm still trying to decide what to build.
Mike G.
Contact me off list for a possible inspection solution.
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Derrick J Brashear wrote:
Pittsburgh, PA, where I am still trying to find someone to inspect my
EV so I can start driving it...
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From: "Christopher Robison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:16 PM
Subject: 50A 230V connectors
> For my EV project, I've bought myself a PFC50, and I've been thinking
> about how I'd like to provide power input to it. The idea I have is to
> put a twistlock inlet behind the fuel door, as seems to be the most common
> approach.
>
If you have a twistlock than you should have a way that when the plug is in
the car won't go as driving off with the plug plugged in dose happen , but
thats not hard , a switch on the door that cuts off the main contactor will
do .
> The problem is, 50 amp twistlocks seem to be in a different world. The 20A
> and 30A varieties are a bit expensive ($30+ each for plug and connector)
> but you can buy them anywhere, Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Step up to 50A, and
> the selection disappears, and the prices get obscene.
if your pack is lower that the input which I assume will be 240 ac than you
won't draw the same power as what your putting out , so a 120 pack might
drawl 1/2 .
There seems to be
> only a scant handful of sites online selling them, most of those to the
> marine market for shore power connections, and in any case the best prices
> I could find were for the Leviton connectors, which are around $80-90 a
> pop.
>
> What do others use, who have 50 amp chargers? Is there a less expensive
> source for these things, or should I give up on using twistlocks? Also,
> are the different brands (like the Levitons vs. the Hubbell Insulgrip,
> etc) compatible with each other? Their similar item numbers would seem to
> suggest so...
>
> Thanks,
>
> --chris
>
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BadFishRacing from Warren Michigan, couple of miles north of Detroit.
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> Mark Fowler wrote:
> > I'll be visiting a local school to talk to the Yr
> 6 kids
> > (~12 years old) about my EV...
>
> That's a fun age group. But, you'll lose 'em if you
> just stand up there
> and talk. They will want to see ACTION!
>
As a middle school science teacher, I agree with Lee.
Another activity would be to get the kids into groups
of 3 and have them come up with answers to the
following questions (1 question per group):
1) What does it say that a person values when they
spend $40,000 on a vehicle that gets 12 miles per
gallon of gasoline?
2) What does it say that a person values when they
spend $40,000 on a vehicle that emits no carbon
dioxide, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, benzene,
oil spills, or formaldehyde, and gets the equivalent
of 100 mpg?
3) Why do you think that there has not been wider
acceptance of electric vehicles nationwide?
4) Where is energy lost in a combustion vehicle that
doesn't wind up getting used making the wheels go
around?
5) Where is energy lost in an electric vehicle that
doesn't wind up making the wheels go around?
6) What would be some of the global consequences if
the majority of people drove electric vehicles?
7) Our government predicts somewhere between a 20-40
year supply of oil (which is the raw material that
gets refined into gasoline). Do you think it is wise
and fair to you that people are driving the largest
cars possible? Why/why not?
8) Why do you think that your president is against
raising fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles?
9) Why do you think Americans oppose raising
fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles, while
people in other countries force their governments to
have high fuel-efficiency standards?
10) Alaska has a 6 month supply of oil. Do you think
it would be wise to drill for it right now? Why/why
not?
11) There are hundreds of moving parts in an electric
vehicle, and only three in the electric vehicle. What
does that say about the reliability of electric
vehicles? Give support for your explanation.
12) Right now, the US military is purchasing hybrid
vehicles, even though they are unavailable to the
public. How do you think these vehicles will help our
national security or military capability?
13) To be the most environmentally-friendly, what
type of power plant would be providing the electricity
for the vehicle?
14) Some people say this car is solar-powered. Is it?
What are 3 reasons that it make no sense to put solar
cells on the roof of the vehicle?
15) Japanese manufacturers built a Toyota RAV-4
electric vehicle, and sold it for a year in 2002.
Both Toyota and Honda have hybrids, which use both
electric and gas power together, to get 45 miles per
gallon. Why do you think the Japanese built these
cars 3 years before the first American hybrids might
be coming out?
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If you can download that video of the tzero beating a muscle car on the drag
strip, it might excite the kids. People are always impressed when I play it
for them--definitely dispels the "golf cart" image of EVs.
Bill Dennis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lee Hart
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ideas for EV school visit
Mark Fowler wrote:
> I'll be visiting a local school to talk to the Yr 6 kids
> (~12 years old) about my EV...
That's a fun age group. But, you'll lose 'em if you just stand up there
and talk. They will want to see ACTION!
Can you get some videos of the NEDRA dragsters? Or, just bring some
pictures to pass around. Include some monster EVs, like an electric
train, giant earthmover, etc.
Bring a motor, a battery, and some wire (clip leads are easy). Pass 'em
around so they can see how easy it is to hook a motor to a battery and
make it go. If you have more "stuff", bring it too!
Describe (or demonstrate, if possible) electrics they can build. Toy car
motor, a couple AA cells, and a car made out of recycled materials with
a rubber band drive. Electric bike, with a car fan motor
friction-driving the tire, powered by a sealed battery.
Give 'em a handout that has a resource list if they want to learn more.
Books, movies (Race the Sun), places on the web, etc. One example is our
BEST website, www.bestoutreach.org.
--
"Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed
citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever
has!" -- Margaret Mead
--
Lee A. Hart 814 8th Ave N Sartell MN 56377 leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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Ken Trough wrote:
I'm going to create a global map with names and email addresses. I'll post
a link when I'm done.
PLEASE use some sort of encryption on the email addresses. That kind of
email list is just the thing spam-bots look for. On the EV Album the email
addresses are shown as gif images rather than plain text. This hides them
from spam-bots. It is a pain to make all those gifs, but it does the
job. There are other more advanced methods, but that is the one I use.
Thanks,
Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
'95 Solectria Force
Kansas City, Missouri
EV List Photo Album at: http://evalbum.com
My Electric Car at: http://www.geocities.com/electric_honda
Mid-America EAA chapter at: http://maeaa.org
Join the EV List at: http://www.madkatz.com/ev/evlist.html
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The EV-depleted Salt Lake City, UT.
Bill Dennis
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Per Roger's recommendation about Toyo tires: I don't know about their LRR
value, but we had a set on our 1986 300ZX that lasted 96,000 miles and had
to be replaced only because one got ruined by some severe puncture damage.
I've still got the 300ZX, too. If it were lighter, I'd convert it to an EV.
Bill Dennis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Roger Stockton
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New Tires for the Jeep
> On Nov 7, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Nick Viera wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to improve the range of my electric Jeep
> > Cherokee. So I've been thinking about buying low
> > rolling resistance tires for it. What tires or tire
> > brands have others had good luck with?
Toyo 800 Ultra <http://www.toyocanada.com/products/800Ultra.html>.
It is not specifically advertised as a low rolling resistance tire, but
it does roll quite nicely and delivers great fuel economy on ICE
vehicles. The 160,000km/100,000mi treadwear warranty and 44psi
inflation limit are both nice features.
> > Also, since the Jeep now weights around 4,000lbs., will the
> > weight be a problem when selecting new tires?
The P225/75R15 Toyo 800 Ultra has a load rating of 102, which is
1874lbs, so there would be no problem.
Roger.
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Previously: up the street from Otmar in Palo Alto, California.
As of a few months ago: Cambridge, Massachusetts.
I'm currently preparing the Electric Banana for my first EV winter. I
bet I have one of the most rust-free 914's in New England-- for
another two months or so.
Brandon Stafford
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Ken,
Thanks, I'm really interested in the EV map from the
EVDL members. I'm glad somebody has taken the effort
to document this list.
Rod
In Ohio, the state that sold our future for 'moral
values' What kind of morals were these people thinking
of anyhow?
--- Ken Trough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm going to create a global map with names and
> email addresses. I'll
> post a link when I'm done.
>
> -Ken Trough
> Admin - V is for Voltage Megasite
> http://visforvoltage.com
> AIM - ktrough
> FAX - 801-749-7807
> message - 866-872-8901
>
>
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Jefferson City ,TN about 30 miles north east of knoxville.
Scott O'Quinn
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From: "Danny Ames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "EV SEND MSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 4:11 PM
Subject: EVDL poll where do you live ?
> It would be interesting to find out how many different places and
> countries EVDL members are in.
> Who knows you may discover your neighbor is on EVDL.
> I'm in Brisbane California USA 1 mile south of San Francisco.
> A few of you I have met this way.
> Cheers,
> Danny Ames
>
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Ken, rather than putting email addresses, why not put image links to the EV
Album? That way people can see all the details of the person's EV.
Don
See the New Beetle EV Conversion Web Site at
www.cameronsoftware.com/ev/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Chancey
Sent: November 7, 2004 5:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: spam: RE: EVDL poll where do you live ?
Ken Trough wrote:
>I'm going to create a global map with names and email addresses. I'll
>post a link when I'm done.
PLEASE use some sort of encryption on the email addresses. That kind of
email list is just the thing spam-bots look for. On the EV Album the email
addresses are shown as gif images rather than plain text. This hides them
from spam-bots. It is a pain to make all those gifs, but it does the job.
There are other more advanced methods, but that is the one I use.
Thanks,
Mike Chancey,
'88 Civic EV
'95 Solectria Force
Kansas City, Missouri
EV List Photo Album at: http://evalbum.com My Electric Car at:
http://www.geocities.com/electric_honda
Mid-America EAA chapter at: http://maeaa.org Join the EV List at:
http://www.madkatz.com/ev/evlist.html
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