EV Digest 5266
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) new "This New Car" Radio Show now on-line
by M Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
by "Richard Acuti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) RE: Another eBay EV find: Avenger in NY state
by "Christopher Tromley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Re: Huge AGM cells
by Victor Tikhonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Electricross has pics of production frames
by "Neal Saiki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) Clean up air and death rate drops, study finds
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: Electricross has pics of production frames
by "Paul Compton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Re: Angle Iron to Chassis
by "Chuck Hursch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
by "Chuck Hursch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: Angle Iron to Chassis
by Andrew Letton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) Re: EaglePicher Horizon Group RS1250 "Racing" Battery
by Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) new member...
by Seth Rothenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Re: EaglePicher Horizon Group RS1250 "Racing" Battery
by Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) RE: Electricross has pics of production frames
by "Don Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) S-15 Solar Car Corp. possible grounding issue.
by Mark Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: AC version of the ETek?
by Ray Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Monster Garage?
by Electro Automotive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) What are the possible causes for a charger to not bring up total
pack voltage hi enough?
by Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: Monster Garage?
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Re: Monster Garage?
by Ryan Bohm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: What are the possible causes for a charger to not bring up total pack
voltage hi enough?
by "Joe Smalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) motor wrangling
by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Metering circuit
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
24) One more monitoring circuit
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25) Re: Monster Garage?
by "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) RE: EV cheaper than gas per mile
by Cor van de Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) RE: Huge AGM cells
by Cor van de Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) RE: EV cheaper than gas per mile
by Cor van de Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29) Re: Metering circuit
by Rush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
30) Re: Metering circuit
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
31) Any daily drivers using an advanced battery chemistry?
by Mark Freidberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
32) RE: Metering circuit
by Mike & Paula Willmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
33) LED Headlights
by Mike & Paula Willmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
34) RE: Monster Garage?
by Mike & Paula Willmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ANOTHER episode of "This New Car" is now on-line (MP3 recording) at
http://www.wicn.org/programs/thisnewcar/schedule.htm
Podcast/RSS support for "This New Car" is available on the same page.
The episodes are 30 minutes each and almost all meat, very little fat compared
to most talk shows. Listen and see if you agree.
The entire schedule of 13 weeks ...
Available ...
#1 Pros and Cons of Hybrid Vehicles
#2 Pros and Cons of Alternative-Energy Vehicles
#3 Hydrogen-combustion vehicles
#4 Fuel-cell vehicles
#5 Electric & plug-in vehicles
#6 New-technology vehicles
#7 What makes a hybrid a hybrid?
#8 Saving fuel with computers
#9 Detroit: Can the Motor City be hybrid-ized?
#10 "Green" vehicles: What are they and does the average consumer really care?
#11 What can be done about the cars currently on the road to make them
cleaner and more environmentally friendly?
In the March 19 show, "This New Car" explores Making Cleaner the Car
You Now Drive. In January, the /Wall Street Journal/ extolled the
virtues of Toyota's hybrid car in an article titled "Prius: Little
Engine Means Big Savings." A few days later, the /Journal/ ran a
letter from a reader, Anthony Howe of Winston-Salem, NC. "Yes,"
Howe wrote, "'horsepower overkill' is real and is indeed 'very
inefficient.' But solving this problem most definitely does not
require an investment in a hybrid power plant. ..." Indeed, making
existing internal-combustion-only vehicles more efficient may offer
not only a quicker environmental fix than hybrids, but also may be
more readily accepted by those put off by the "tree hugger" image of
the stereotypical hybrid owner.
Coming ...
#12 Are the state and federal governments doing enough to promote and support
"green" vehicles?
#13 Does everyone need to own a vehicle?
"This New Car", is a special 13-week edition of "The Business Beat", on
WICN/90.5 FM and at WICN.org in Worcester, MA, the National Public Radio
affiliate serving Central New England.
The experts for this lively, informative discussion on hybrid and
alternative-fuel vehicles are
Jim Dunn the NASA Center for Technology Commercialization
Gilles Labelle the Hybrid Center of Massachusetts at Westboro Toyota
Craig Van Batenburg the Automotive Career Development Center
all in Westboro Massachusetts.
"This New Car" is hosted by Steven Jones-D'Agostino of Best Rate Of Climb in
Worcester, MA, and sponsored exclusively by Westboro Toyota.
--
Mike Bianchi
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It's .046 cents/kWh here in my part of Maryland. I just checked it on
today's bill.
According to reliable sources, it'll go up 77% when the de-regulation hits.
I calculate that to be .081 cents/kWh.
According to this graphic of the U.S.:
http://www.mrsolar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MSOS&Category_Code=CE
I live right on the line that bisects Maryland where I might consider it not
to be worth installing a PV grid-tie system. Any further north and I
probably wouldn't give it a second thought. Now, with the price of -all-
energy going up, I'm really thinking hard about it.
Rich
From: Neon John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:37:58 -0500
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:17:42 -0600 (CST), "Michaela Merz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cor wrote:
EV truck fuel costs:
400Wh per mile and recharging at 5.8c per kWh plus some
charging inefficiencies mean that electricity is $0.03/mi
Holy smoke - where do you get the Kw/h for 5.8c? They just raised
us to 17c .. ?
I'm not sure what it is after the recent small rate increase but it
was 5.2 cents/kw here. We (and TVA) don't cotton the fruits'n'nuts
here so we have plenty of generation, particularly nuclear, to keep
the rates down.
John
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Cowtown wrote:
> This project is begging for a dedicated EVista...how 'bout them wooden
> battery
> hold-downs (at least they're held down):
As the builder of a Fiberfab Avenger (to the ubiquitous "90% complete"
stage), I can confidently say there are *hundreds* of hours yet to be
invested to get this car into decent shape. If you have the time, have
at it. I know that opening bid is pathetic considering the time already
invested, but it's a huge hurdle if you know there is so much yet to do.
Plan on spending all your time in the garage.
And most of it isn't the fun stuff. It's the frustrating fiddly bits
that no one thought about when designing it. Only the most experienced
DIYer will come away with a car that doesn't look like it was built in
someone's back yard.
Gives me the shivers.
Chris
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Danny Miller wrote:
Remember how I said (with some
degree of sarcasm) that if a vehicle's battery could actually get paid
that rate then I'd just forget the vehicle, fill my garage with
batteries and earn thousands of dollars every month. Logically I assume
this is not possible since the power company would make their own
installation if it was worth that much to them.
They cannot afford storage space and maintenance of many MWh
concentrated in one (or few) places). But spread over potentially
thousands homes (and not having to pay for space/service/repair/
ANY problems) if you think about it makes more financial sense to them,
even if they *occasuonally* pay more per *peak* kWh than they charge
customers.
Victor
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What you all think about the new production aluminum motocross frames? The
site has pictures of them. They are available as complete bikes or in
pieces for your own project motorcycle.
www.electricross.com
So far, brushed aluminum seems to be what everyone wants. I might just
forget about powder coating if nobody misses it. What's the general opinion
out there?
Thanks,
Neal
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Some might call this off topic. I say it is right on target and why many
(not all) of us are driving electric.
http://www.grist.org/cgi-bin/forward.pl?forward_id=6629 New York Times
article.
Lawrence Rhodes
Bassoon/Contrabassoon
Reedmaker
Book 4/5 doubler
Electric Vehicle & Solar Power Advocate
Vegetable Oil Car.
415-821-3519
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What you all think about the new production aluminum motocross frames?
The
site has pictures of them. They are available as complete bikes or in
pieces for your own project motorcycle.
Not much I'm afraid.
It's a mechanism, not a structure and would probably have been lighter in
steel, particularly if you figure in fatigue life.
A Tropica on two wheels.
Paul Compton
www.sciroccoev.co.uk
www.morini-mania.co.uk
www.compton.vispa.com/the_named
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Can you attach to the bumper shock bolts, as is done on the
VoltsRabbit?
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From: "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: Angle Iron to Chassis
> I'm converting a 1993 Geo Metro, which is a uni-body car. To
support the
> batteries under the hood, my plan is to run lengths of angle
iron across the
> engine bay, attaching to the wheel wells on each side. When I
talk to a
> welder about this today, however, he was hesitant to weld the
angle iron to
> the car. He said that there might be too much racking, which
would cause
> the car's sheet metal to tear. He says that I should bolt the
angle iron in
> place instead.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone welded this
way, and if
> so, have there been any problems?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Dennis
>
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Cor,
Do you have a whole-house E-9, or is just the EV and the dryer
attached to the circuit metered by the E-9?
Chuck
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From: "Cor van de Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: EV cheaper than gas per mile
> Hi Michaela,
>
> Are you on a TOU (Time Of Use) meter? Do you have PG&E?
> Check with your energy supplier if you qualify for a different
> rate based on the recharge of an EV (clean air vehicle) at your
home.
>
> Until a week ago I was also paying 11c per kWh (and more,
> as I went over the 100% baseline)
> but I noticed on the PG&E site that they do not charge a fee
> for TOU meter swapping when you have an EV that is being
charged at home.
> So I filled out a form, faxed it and 2 days later I had a new
meter.
> >From midnight to 7 AM the rate is 5.8c in winter and 5c in
summer
>
> The flip side is that in summer between 2 PM and 9 PM the peak
rate
> is 28.4c per kWh for the baseline usage, rising to almost half
a dollar
> for the usage above the 200% baseline threshold...
>
> I can already see that more than 2/3 of my usage is in the 5.8c
period
> simply by moving the EV recharge and clothes dryer to that time
period.
>
> NOTE that in the weekend the hours of low rate are extended,
these are
> the weekday hours. Only 5 PM - 9 PM are partial peak hours, the
rest
> of the time is low rate.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Cor van de Water
> Systems Architect
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>
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Michaela Merz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
>
>
>
> Cor wrote:
>
> > EV truck fuel costs:
> > 400Wh per mile and recharging at 5.8c per kWh plus some
> > charging inefficiencies mean that electricity is $0.03/mi
>
> Holy smoke - where do you get the Kw/h for 5.8c? They just
raised
> us to 17c .. ?
>
> Michaela
>
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There are no bumper shocks on a '93 Metro. Shock absorption is by
styrofoam "crush zones" in the bumper covers, as in many (most?) modern
cars.
Attaching to the tops of the strut towers would be good on a Metro, as
the car has McPherson struts and essentially the whole front end of the
car is supported by the tops of the strut towers.
Another stout place to attach things in a Metro/Swift is the crossmember
that runs laterally under the radiator.
HTH...cheers,
Andrew (Suzuki nut)
Chuck Hursch wrote:
Can you attach to the bumper shock bolts, as is done on the
VoltsRabbit?
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From: "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: Angle Iron to Chassis
I'm converting a 1993 Geo Metro, which is a uni-body car. To
support the
batteries under the hood, my plan is to run lengths of angle
iron across the
engine bay, attaching to the wheel wells on each side. When I
talk to a
welder about this today, however, he was hesitant to weld the
angle iron to
the car. He said that there might be too much racking, which
would cause
the car's sheet metal to tear. He says that I should bolt the
angle iron in
place instead.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone welded this
way, and if
so, have there been any problems?
Thanks.
Bill Dennis
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I did a little digging and came to this link
http://www.epcompower.com/CPS/CustomerService/Document_Downloads.htm, they have
lots of different kinds of batteries, Pba, Li ions, NMH, Nicads.
If you clik on the CFR-12V134, you get a bat that has a c/1 rate of 90 ah and a
c/20 rate of 134 ah, the weight is 100 lbs...
The energy density at c/20 being 16.08 watt hrs/lb. How do you figure the
energy density for c/1 rate? Is it just a simple ratio like - 90 is to 134 as x
is to 16.08?
All the Li ions are on the same sheet, they have prismatic cells, aren't those
the ones the Hondas use?
Rush
Tucson AZ
www.ironandwood.org
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From: "Roger Stockton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: EaglePicher Horizon Group RS1250 "Racing" Battery
> Mike & Paula Willmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> The literature states "highest specific energy of any lead
>> acid battery in the marketplace today". Am I wrong for
>> thinking that a standard Group 31 AGM at 100 AH that weighs
>> 69 lbs has a slightly better specific energy than four of
>> these totaling 72 lbs for the same AH rating?
>
> Yes, you could be wrong... the Horizons are rated at the C/3 rate, and
> your 69lb group 31 will likely have less than 100Ah of capacity at the
> C/3 rate.
>
> Consider the 12D2000 Horizon: 85Ah C/3, 68Ah C/1, 57.6lb, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Then the Trojan 31XHS: 105Ah C/5, ~70Ah C/1, 67lbs, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> At the 1hr rate, the 31XHS delivers 1.06Ah/lb. The 12D2000 delivers
> 1.18Ah/lb at the 1hr rate.
>
> Then consider that the 12D2000 still delivers 59Ah when discharged in
> 30min, and 30Ah when discharged in 1min (at almost 1800A!), and can dish
> out 2400A+ and it becomes clear that it is a far superior battery for EV
> aplications, whether or not it actually has the "highest specific energy
> of any lead acid battery in the marketplace today"!
>
> I'd really like to see the specs for the 12A5000 (rated for 5000CA vs
> the 12D2000's 2000CA), and especially to see if it is intended for deep
> cycle use or just SLI-type duty, but they don't appear to be on
> Horizon's website:
>
> <http://www.ephorizon.com/Horizon/Products/Batteries/Product_Spec.htm>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roger.
>
>
>
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...of the EV community...
I took delivery of an EV today.
It needs some parts and other work,
but has a lot of potential...
more details once I evaluate it.
(The good news is it rolls and it stops :-)
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Roger wrote -
> I'd really like to see the specs for the 12A5000 (rated for 5000CA vs
> the 12D2000's 2000CA), and especially to see if it is intended for deep
> cycle use or just SLI-type duty, but they don't appear to be on
> Horizon's website:
I emailed EP about the 12A5000 and got this response -
"Actually Rush, our 12D2000 battery is the one you would want for the EV
application. The 12A5000 is for audio applications only. Attached is a
spec sheet for the 12D2000. Thanks!! Donnie"
Rush
Tucson AZ
www.ironandwood.org
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Paul, I am curious - what was it that you did not like about the frame?
Just that it was not steel? What was the problem with the Tropica?
Don Cameron, Victoria, BC, Canada
see the New Beetle EV project www.cameronsoftware.com/ev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Compton
Sent: March 21, 2006 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Electricross has pics of production frames
> What you all think about the new production aluminum motocross frames?
> The
> site has pictures of them. They are available as complete bikes or in
> pieces for your own project motorcycle.
Not much I'm afraid.
It's a mechanism, not a structure and would probably have been lighter in
steel, particularly if you figure in fatigue life.
A Tropica on two wheels.
Paul Compton
www.sciroccoev.co.uk
www.morini-mania.co.uk
www.compton.vispa.com/the_named
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Just thought i'd post this in case someone else has a SCC kit or really any
used conversion EV I guess.
This is my second used EV that was a Solar Car Corp kit. The first one I
rewired when the curtis went out and I replaced it with a DCP Raptor so I
accidently avoided this potential issue.
I believe both were setup the same with the controller to motor wiring just
over the steering column. I took another look tonight after months of on again
off again trying to track down my GFI and found that the steering column had
gone through insulation to the bare wire on the positive cable. When I replaced
the batteries it looked fine and wasn't touching at all but I guess driving it
a few thousand miles and getting the brake master cyllinder replaced moved it
enough. The positive wire now straddles the steering column.
I do have a circuit breaker and an anderson that I can pull from the cab but
only have one contactor with an always on precharge so I am hoping this is
finally the grounding issue. Kind of worrysome that I have been driving it as
much as I have by charging with an isolated charger.
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Mars Electric LLC is making a brushless DC motor with similar mounting to the
Etek. They also have two controllers, one fixed speed and one variable.
They have quoted me $450 for the motor with either controller. The motor is
rated at 4hp continuous (less than the Etek) but I think the limitation is in
the controller. They send me some large jpgs with motor performance graphs if
anyone is interested in the data.
Ray
<contact>
John Fiorenza
Mars Electric LLC
3580 Slinger Road
Slinger, WI 53086 USA
Phone: 262-644-7525
Fax: 262-644-7527
www.marselectricllc.com
Dmitri Hurik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If by "replacement" you mean alternative, here is one:
http://www.enigmaindustries.com/PMG_132/PMG_132.htm
Briggs and Stratton made a brushless E-tek with similar ratings in 2003, but
haven't seen it anywhere yet for some reason.
http://www.commercialpower.com/display/router.asp?DocID=%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%0975790
Maybe they just weren't selling enough for the floor care equipment industry
and discountinued them as well.
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From: "Nick Austin"
To: "EVList"
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:50 AM
Subject: AC version of the ETek?
>I was looking at the ETek for use in an electric scooter project, but I
>noted
> that it has been discontinued.
>
> Is there a replacement for the ETek? Also, does anybody know if there is
> an
> AC version with similar ratings?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Any word on when the episode is supposed to air?
Shari Prange
Electro Automotive POB 1113 Felton CA 95018-1113 Telephone 831-429-1989
http://www.electroauto.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electric Car Conversion Kits * Components * Books * Videos * Since 1979
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Hi, I have a GMC S-15 conversion with a 120V system and a Zivan NLG3 charger
that has an input of 220V AC (15A). Since yesterday, the pack voltage has
only reached 121V after a full charge. It used to reach 129 or 130V. The
batteries individually range within .08 V each averaging about 6.04V. These
are NEW Exide GC2 227Ahr batteries.
What could be going wrong here? Is it the charger of the batteries?
Do I need to take the Zivan to their office in Sac to be checked on a bench,
or is their something else I could do or check first?
Thanks in advance...
Jacob
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Oh yea sure is.
The Milwaukeetool.com Site has it listed as April 10th at 9pm.
That's about as clear as you can get.
Rich Rudman
Madman
Manzanita Micro
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From: "Electro Automotive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:44 PM
Subject: Monster Garage?
> Any word on when the episode is supposed to air?
>
> Shari Prange
> Electro Automotive POB 1113 Felton CA 95018-1113 Telephone 831-429-1989
> http://www.electroauto.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Electric Car Conversion Kits * Components * Books * Videos * Since 1979
>
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Hey Rich,
Where did you find that on the milwaukeetool.com site? I just probed
around and couldn't find it.
-Ryan
Oh yea sure is.
The Milwaukeetool.com Site has it listed as April 10th at 9pm.
That's about as clear as you can get.
Rich Rudman
Madman
Manzanita Micro
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It is the charger.
Check the obvious things: plugged in, turned on, fuse OK, Smell of hot
circuit board material, etc.
If you don't find anything wrong, take it in for service.
Joe Smalley
Rural Kitsap County WA
Fiesta 48 volts
NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder
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From: "Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: What are the possible causes for a charger to not bring up total
pack voltage hi enough?
> Hi, I have a GMC S-15 conversion with a 120V system and a Zivan NLG3
charger
> that has an input of 220V AC (15A). Since yesterday, the pack voltage has
> only reached 121V after a full charge. It used to reach 129 or 130V. The
> batteries individually range within .08 V each averaging about 6.04V.
These
> are NEW Exide GC2 227Ahr batteries.
>
> What could be going wrong here? Is it the charger of the batteries?
> Do I need to take the Zivan to their office in Sac to be checked on a
bench,
> or is their something else I could do or check first?
> Thanks in advance...
> Jacob
>
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David,
It sounds like it's hanging up on the clutch spline or the throwout bearing
sleeve.
Mine's a 5 speed but that shouldn't make a difference and I had it out and
back in last weekend. My trick is to use a couple of long bolts with the
heads cut off. They work as guide pins all the way in while starting the
alignment from 4" to 5" away. Then just swap them for the 'Real' bolts. I
do have to turn the motor to get the clutch spline lined up and in the last
1" to 1-1/2".
BTW: What is this rust that you refer to? I've heard Bob Rice allude to
that also. Is it contagious?
Jim
'88 Fiero ESE in Phoenix, the Valley of the Sun.
>refuses to go in that last 1.5". It'll go on the tranny shaft a bit,
>then slide on another inch or so after a bit of wrangling, changing
>angles, etc., but then it hangs. I can't see anything in its way that
>it could be hanging on.
>So, all you fiero fans out there (I know you're out there, I can hear
>you scraping away rust), what is it hanging up on? is there a trick to
>it? It's the 4 speed manual tranny. (Yes, It clears the CV joint.)
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Could you put this circuit at each battery and use a ribbon cable to send the
output to 8-LED bars in the dash:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4624650692
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This looks like Lee Hart's Batt-Bridge for each battery:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/ledvolt.htm
Just number each light and you can tell at a glance which one's going south!
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www.milwaukeetool.com
press release
additional press releases
2nd one down
V8=V28
he car made its first public appearance at the International Builders' Show
held recently in Orlando and will be featured on the cable TV show, Monster
Garage on Monday, April 10, 2006. (Show airs on The Discovery Channel at
9:00 PM Mondays, Eastern Time)
About the second paragraph.
Let me get the link.
OK
I didn't get the link But I got the Data.
Madman
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From: "Ryan Bohm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Monster Garage?
> Hey Rich,
>
> Where did you find that on the milwaukeetool.com site? I just probed
> around and couldn't find it.
>
> -Ryan
>
> >Oh yea sure is.
> >The Milwaukeetool.com Site has it listed as April 10th at 9pm.
> >That's about as clear as you can get.
> >
> >Rich Rudman
> >Madman
> >Manzanita Micro
> >
> >
>
> --
> - EV Source <http://www.evsource.com> -
> Selling names like Zilla, PFC Chargers, and WarP Motors
> E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Toll-free: 1-877-215-6781
>
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Ah, Mr Solar.
I found that site extremely helpful when I started investigating
into the option of Solar energy on my house in The Netherlands.
NOTE: that is the latitude of south Canada!
I installed 3000 Watt and was very happy with the results.
Regards,
Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Richard Acuti
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
It's .046 cents/kWh here in my part of Maryland. I just checked it on
today's bill.
According to reliable sources, it'll go up 77% when the de-regulation hits.
I calculate that to be .081 cents/kWh.
According to this graphic of the U.S.:
http://www.mrsolar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MSOS&Ca
tegory_Code=CE
I live right on the line that bisects Maryland where I might consider it not
to be worth installing a PV grid-tie system. Any further north and I
probably wouldn't give it a second thought. Now, with the price of -all-
energy going up, I'm really thinking hard about it.
Rich
From: Neon John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:37:58 -0500
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:17:42 -0600 (CST), "Michaela Merz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Cor wrote:
>
>>EV truck fuel costs:
>>400Wh per mile and recharging at 5.8c per kWh plus some
>>charging inefficiencies mean that electricity is $0.03/mi
>
>Holy smoke - where do you get the Kw/h for 5.8c? They just raised
>us to 17c .. ?
I'm not sure what it is after the recent small rate increase but it
was 5.2 cents/kw here. We (and TVA) don't cotton the fruits'n'nuts
here so we have plenty of generation, particularly nuclear, to keep
the rates down.
John
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Who was that again that proposed a solution to avoid cell
imbalance in long strings, by using a 2V battery and motor?
This offer comes real close.
Anybody that has a 100kA contactor, ?
Or anybody that want to define a new lower-voltage NEDRA class?
<ducking>
Regards,
Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
Skype: cor_van_de_water IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +1 408 542 5225 VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
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Proxim Wireless Networks eFAX: +1-610-423-5743
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Myles Twete
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Huge AGM cells
> Can't figure out a use for them, but I'm still in awe. Guy's selling
> 1255 amp-hr AGM cells, 200 lbs each.
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtest.lab.guyQQhtZ-1
Killer dump pack!
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Whole house (rate E-9A), see
http://www.pge.com/about_us/environment/electric_vehicles/index.html
That is why the drier is also on the cheap rate and the other
1/3 of the usage is the daily house usage...
Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
Skype: cor_van_de_water IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +1 408 542 5225 VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
Fax: +1 408 731 3675 eFAX: +31-87-784-1130
Proxim Wireless Networks eFAX: +1-610-423-5743
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Chuck Hursch
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
Cor,
Do you have a whole-house E-9, or is just the EV and the dryer
attached to the circuit metered by the E-9?
Chuck
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From: "Cor van de Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: EV cheaper than gas per mile
> Hi Michaela,
>
> Are you on a TOU (Time Of Use) meter? Do you have PG&E?
> Check with your energy supplier if you qualify for a different
> rate based on the recharge of an EV (clean air vehicle) at your
home.
>
> Until a week ago I was also paying 11c per kWh (and more,
> as I went over the 100% baseline)
> but I noticed on the PG&E site that they do not charge a fee
> for TOU meter swapping when you have an EV that is being
charged at home.
> So I filled out a form, faxed it and 2 days later I had a new
meter.
> >From midnight to 7 AM the rate is 5.8c in winter and 5c in
summer
>
> The flip side is that in summer between 2 PM and 9 PM the peak
rate
> is 28.4c per kWh for the baseline usage, rising to almost half
a dollar
> for the usage above the 200% baseline threshold...
>
> I can already see that more than 2/3 of my usage is in the 5.8c
period
> simply by moving the EV recharge and clothes dryer to that time
period.
>
> NOTE that in the weekend the hours of low rate are extended,
these are
> the weekday hours. Only 5 PM - 9 PM are partial peak hours, the
rest
> of the time is low rate.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Cor van de Water
> Systems Architect
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com
> Skype: cor_van_de_water IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel: +1 408 542 5225 VoIP: +31 20 3987567 FWD# 25925
> Fax: +1 408 731 3675 eFAX: +31-87-784-1130
> Proxim Wireless Networks eFAX: +1-610-423-5743
> Take your network further http://www.proxim.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Michaela Merz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: EV cheaper than gas per mile
>
>
>
> Cor wrote:
>
> > EV truck fuel costs:
> > 400Wh per mile and recharging at 5.8c per kWh plus some
> > charging inefficiencies mean that electricity is $0.03/mi
>
> Holy smoke - where do you get the Kw/h for 5.8c? They just
raised
> us to 17c .. ?
>
> Michaela
>
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Note that it is a Kit, and not assembled as shown in the pics...
Rush
Tucson AZ
www.ironandwood.org
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:18 PM
Subject: Metering circuit
> Could you put this circuit at each battery and use a ribbon cable to send the
> output to 8-LED bars in the dash:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4624650692
>
>
>
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<< Note that it is a Kit, and not assembled as shown in the pics... >>
Well, yeah, I figger'd that! 'Course I sodder worse th'n Larry the Cable Guy, so
it wern't more th'n an idear...
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Is anyone driving a street EV with a commercially available battery pack other
then lead-acid or flooded Nicad?
Mark
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Here's a little simpler one, don't know if 14.5 Volts would bust it though.
http://www.gibsonteched.com/ck005.html
or this one about 2/3 down the page titled "LED 12 Volt Lead Acid Battery
Meter"
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/page11.htm
Here's a non kit version with 1 tri-color LED and flash codes. Kinda spendy
for a large pack though:
http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=BOVOLT
Another simple but odd display type:
http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Power/svind.htm
Another:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/ledvolt.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Metering circuit
<< Note that it is a Kit, and not assembled as shown in the pics... >>
Well, yeah, I figger'd that! 'Course I sodder worse th'n Larry the Cable
Guy, so
it wern't more th'n an idear...
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Interesting find looking for the LED voltage indicators.
http://www.ledtronics.com/datasheets/auto_index/auto_index.htm#Auto_Section_
4
Is anyone using LED conversion bulbs in the EV for tail and turn signals?
Nick's home made versions for his Cherokee are pretty resourceful. Maybe
Nick would comment on how well they are working for him.
I was also wondering if anyone is making headlamps with those high power
Luxeon Star K2 5 watt LED's? Seen some bicyclers with some pretty blinding
headlamps.
http://www.luxeonstar.com/item.php?id=1811&link_str=330&partno=LXK2-PW14-U00
Mike,
Anchorage, Ak.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Rush
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Metering circuit
Note that it is a Kit, and not assembled as shown in the pics...
Rush
Tucson AZ
www.ironandwood.org
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:18 PM
Subject: Metering circuit
> Could you put this circuit at each battery and use a ribbon cable to send
the
> output to 8-LED bars in the dash:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4624650692
>
>
>
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Here's the link:
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/news.nsf/vwPressReleases/05B7EA8847B096A4
8625710A006F210D?OpenDocument
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Rich Rudman
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Monster Garage?
www.milwaukeetool.com
press release
additional press releases
2nd one down
V8=V28
he car made its first public appearance at the International Builders' Show
held recently in Orlando and will be featured on the cable TV show, Monster
Garage on Monday, April 10, 2006. (Show airs on The Discovery Channel at
9:00 PM Mondays, Eastern Time)
About the second paragraph.
Let me get the link.
OK
I didn't get the link But I got the Data.
Madman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Bohm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Monster Garage?
> Hey Rich,
>
> Where did you find that on the milwaukeetool.com site? I just probed
> around and couldn't find it.
>
> -Ryan
>
> >Oh yea sure is.
> >The Milwaukeetool.com Site has it listed as April 10th at 9pm.
> >That's about as clear as you can get.
> >
> >Rich Rudman
> >Madman
> >Manzanita Micro
> >
> >
>
> --
> - EV Source <http://www.evsource.com> -
> Selling names like Zilla, PFC Chargers, and WarP Motors
> E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Toll-free: 1-877-215-6781
>
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