EV Digest 5880
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away Current
Lithium-I
by "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away Current
Lithium-Ion Battery
by "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) EV-1 ads.... WAS Dateline is stirring interest in EVs down under
by "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) Bearing replacement tips?
by Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) Brush holder questions
by Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) 100 times the power of a standard alkaline battery.
by Danny Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Re: Bearing replacement tips?
by James Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) RE: Newbie
by "Don Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Karmann Ghia conversion - autostick
by "Mark McCurdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: Newbie
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
11) Re: Newbie
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Newbie
by "Bill Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) RE: Newbie
by "Curtis Muhlestein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) 1995 Ford Probe Transmission Adapter (Mazda?)
by "Rick Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) Re: 1992 GeoMetro EV on E-Bay
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: 100 times the power of a standard alkaline battery.
by "Dmitri Hurik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) BB600 cap tool source and price + Stainless Milspec box price.
by Mike Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) Re: Bearing replacement tips?
by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) Re: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away
Current Lithium-Ion Battery
by Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Save The planet Stunt - Cool Fuel Roadtrip - lots of EVs
by DM3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Re: Brush holder questions
by "Peter Gabrielsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Re: 1995 Ford Probe Transmission Adapter (Mazda?)
by MARK DUTKO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away Current
Lithium-I
by "Mike Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Re: Save The planet Stunt - Cool Fuel Roadtrip - lots of EVs
by "Dmitri Hurik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) Re: Karmann Ghia conversion - autostick
by "Mark McCurdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away
Current Lithium-I
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jukka_J=E4rvinen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
27) Re: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away Current
Lithium-I
by Nick Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
28) EV Conversion Companies in Australia?
by Mike Chancey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Death to All Spammers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:16 AM
Subject: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away
Current Lithium-I
> > guess we need a more real practical challenge, here's one,
> > I want to charge the car by just pulling into the driveway or garage,
> > no cables to plug in, forget to unplug, etc. Just drive in, and it
> > starts charging. Ideas? Some inductive thing on the bottom of the car?
> > how about using high powered laser to transmit charge.
> > simple mechanical method, whiskers drop down and make connection?
> > should work at a gas station too in the future.. drive in, sit for a
> bit
> > and charge, then pull away.
> > Jack
>
> Which listee was it that converted a Model T (?) while stationed in
> Vietnam and had a charge connection come up from a drive-on platform?
> Gees! Someone else saw MY EV in Nam?Well ,if you got to Tay Ninh City
you might have seen me cruising along the rural and city roads, EVEn as far
out as the famous Cao Dai Temple. No electricity therre, to charge at.I
didn't have a model T but it looked more like Henry Ford's Quadracycle
car.Using mobilette motorbike wheels Two D-4 12 volt batteries a GM
Dideassel Starter motor, a homemade cell tap controller, angle iron chassis,
I was acused of cutting uop an Army bunk to build it, but I could showya the
Chinese writing on the steel, came from Taiwan. it gave good servive the
year I was there. I had captured one really good thing, it was rediculously
light! To turn around all I did was to just grab the front bumper and pick
it up! If ALL EV's were that light, we wouldn't need tons of Badderies to
run them.And yes I had a " Charging Deck" to drive onto and charge without
having any thing to plug in. Had two " Shoes" under the front axle that made
contact with spring hacksaw blades to make a snug comnnection. Gunna be
doing this in my garage EVentually.Often wondered what EVer happened to my
early Electro Liner?Are the commies(Viet Congs) still driving it around?
This is why I believe in what Jerry Dycus is doing with a 200 -300 lb
body and 72 volts of batteries to run the Freedom.
>
v Seeya
Bob, long Stateside, now!
>
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From: "Jack Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject: Driveway charging, was Re: "Ultracapacitor-Battery" blows away
Current Lithium-Ion Battery
> I like a little bs'ing and speculative problem solving, but this is
> going on and on.... :)
>
> guess we need a more real practical challenge, here's one,
> I want to charge the car by just pulling into the driveway or garage,
> no cables to plug in, forget to unplug, etc. Just drive in, and it
> starts charging. Ideas? Some inductive thing on the bottom of the car?
> how about using high powered laser to transmit charge.
> simple mechanical method, whiskers drop down and make connection?
> should work at a gas station too in the future.. drive in, sit for a bit
> and charge, then pull away.
> Jack
> Hi Jack!
This is easy to do; I took a sheet of plywood, half inch, made wheel
guides out of two by fours nailed to the plywood to guide the car into
position. Wheel chocks stopped the car when it was in position. Weight of
the wheel turned on the two contact shoes that were positioned under the car
to make the connection to the car for charging. Third rail shoes have worked
for hundreds of years on RR's. I just borrowed the tech,o n a smaller
schedule. Powewr hacksaw blades, ya know? The big thick inch wide ones will
give ya a nive spring loading to make a tight contact with the car's charge
points under the front axle, or the place the front axle WOULD be if it, the
car, was solid axle.This isn't rocket science. But it could be tricky with
different vehicles wanting to feed from the same charging deck? Hell, EV
Folks can't even standardise PLUG charging! But we HAVE the standard of
standard plugs, all arounf. You're SITTING next to one to run yur
computer!For normal overnite charging they are just fine!But the Charging
Deck systen is a hands free deal, EVen Grandma could "Plug" in the car, in
the rain, too! I sure wouldn't leave the contact springs "Hot" when the car
goes away!THAT'S why I say let the weight of the car turn it on, when it
docks.For 120/240 volt charging it would work fine. 3000 volts, well I
wouldn't want ANY of that open!!!!!!!!
My two shoes worth.
Bob
> Ryan Stotts wrote:
> > Jack Murray wrote:
> >
> >> gee, fellas, all this talk about something that we don't even know
> >> actually works let alone exists and is available?
> >
> >
> > You want to talk about Curtis controllers, watering 6 volt batteries,
> > and 20 mile range instead?
> >
> > Or putting ~6,000+ Li batteries in an EV and the fact there is no off
> > the shelf, universal BMS for them?
> >
> > Or if any of the existing air cooled AC motors would work in an EV and
> > the need for an inverter to drive them?
> >
> > Or the Zilla shortage or how many DC motors and which size to put on a
> > single shaft?
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > This 3500V ultra cap is the most exciting and promising thing I've
> > seen in quite a while. The aluminum battery is pretty good too...
> >
> >
>
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From: "David Roden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Dateline is stirring interest in EVs down under
> On 14 Sep 2006 at 8:54, Roderick Wilde wrote:
>
> > The sad truth is that most people in this country had never even heard
> > of [the EV1]. So much for "the award winning add campaigns" that
> > GM claimed.
>
> AFAIK, the ADDY award (to name one well-known advertising award) doesn't
> judge the effectiveness of advertising, only its creativity and
originality.
>
> Yeah! They werre GREAT ads!! But you had to be living in EV-1 country to
see them. They were copied and ran on the EV-1 Fan Club website. Some of the
ads were done for FREE by one of the EV-1 lessors, not OWNERS, He felt that
General Murders wasn't doing enough so he, Well, he loved the car so dearly
that HE did some radio spots for the car. now THAT'S Customer loyalty! All
for nought, sigh!Remember the one where all the electrical appliences moved
themselves out to the street to see the EV-1 drive up?GREAT! EVen better
than the long lost VW ads of 40 years ago.
My two ads worth
Bob
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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Jim Husted has been kind enough to offer advice on how to refurbish my
GE motor. He suggested replacing the bearings (among other things),
which seemed like a good idea.
I've been bugging Jim a lot lately, so I thought I'd throw this out to
the list.
The bearings themselves are pressed onto the motor shaft itself. It's
not like some of the ADCs that have a retaining ring in the faceplate.
I have the rotor out, and there's a bearing on the shaft at each end. I
have a 3-jaw puller, but the jaw ledges either don't fit in the narrow
groove beneath the bearing, or don't grip the bearing inner race.
Does anyone have any advice on how to pull the bearings without shelling
out big $$$? Or similar advice on putting the new bearing on?
Thanks
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I'm trying to clean up my brush holder assembly. It has a lot of dirt
and paint on it. I removed the two bus bars that connect brush holder 1
to 3, and 2 to 4, when it occurred to me that *maybe* I should pay
attention to where they were connected. It seems to me that it doesn't
really matter how I put them back, as long as they connect opposite
brush holders, right?
Which leads me to my next question. These two bars are semicircular,
and overlap each other for 90 degrees. One actually lays on top of the
other. The upper bar is painted black (and gray from some over-zealous
painting of the exterior), and the lower bar is wrapped in tape. This
must be some sort of electrical super-tape. Anyone know what it is or
where I can get it?
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Found this article on slasdot.org.
Danny...
http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2006-07/06-022.html
PROVIDENCE, R.I. Brown University engineers have created a new battery that
uses plastic, not metal, to conduct electrical current. The hybrid device
marries the power of a capacitor with the storage capacity of a battery.
A description of the prototype is published in Advanced Materials.
Batteries have limits, said Tayhas Palmore, an associate professor in
Browns Division of Engineering. They have to be recharged. They can be
expensive. Most of all, they dont deliver a lot of power. Another option is
capacitors. These components, found in electronic devices, can deliver that big
blast of power. But they dont have much storage capacity. So what if you
combined elements of both a battery and a capacitor?
A new kind of battery
Tayhas Palmore, associate professor of engineering, left, and Hyun-Kon Song, a
former postdoctoral research associate, figured out how to combine the
advantages of batteries and capacitors in a plastic hybrid device.
Thats the question Palmore set out to answer with Hyun-Kon Song, a former
postdoctoral research associate at Brown who now works as a researcher at LG
Chem, Ltd. They began to experiment with a new energy-storage system using a
substance called polypyrrole, a chemical compound that carries an electrical
current. Discovery and development of polypyrrole and other conductive polymers
netted three scientists the 2000 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
In their experiments, Palmore and Song took a thin strip of gold-coated
plastic film and covered the tip with polypyrrole and a substance that alters
its conductive properties. The process was repeated, this time using another
kind of conduction-altering chemical. The result: Two strips with different
polymer tips. The plastic strips were then stuck together, separated by a
papery membrane to prevent a short circuit.
The result is a hybrid. Like a capacitor, the battery can be rapidly charged
then discharged to deliver power. Like a battery, it can store and deliver that
charge over long periods of time. During performance testing, the new battery
performed like a hybrid, too. It had twice the storage capacity of an electric
double-layer capacitor. And it delivered more than 100 times the power of a
standard alkaline battery. But Palmore said the new batterys form, as well as
its function, is exciting. In width and height, it is smaller than an iPod
Nano. And its thinner, about as slim as an overhead transparency.
You start thinking about this polymer and you start thinking that you can
create batteries everywhere out of it, Palmore said. You could wrap cell
phones in it or electronic devices. Conceivably, you could even make fabric out
of this composite.
Palmore said some performance problems such as decreased storage capacity
after repeated recharging must be overcome before the device is marketable.
But she expects strong interest. Battery makers are always looking for new ways
to more efficiently store and deliver power. NASA and the U.S. Air Force are
also exploring polymer-based batteries.
What weve got is a good concept, Palmore said. Put electroactive
molecules into conducting polymers and you can come up with all sorts of
interesting materials that store energy.
The National Science Foundation funded the work.
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At 10:52 PM 16/09/06 -0700, Eric wrote:
Does anyone have any advice on how to pull the bearings without shelling
out big $$$? Or similar advice on putting the new bearing on?
G'day Eric
You need a bearing pulling plate - it consists of two half plates with two
bolts to pull them together, flat on one side and fairly flat coned on the
other. Usually they have a pair of tapped holes as well, allowing you to
use a piece of bar as the puller, (if a normal puller can't get the edges
of the plate) two holes drilled in the bar to pick up the bearing plate,
one in the middle that is threaded to do the pulling.
You should get one of these plates from your local bearing supplier.
Hope this helps
Regards
[Technik] James
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Hi Chris, Check evalbum.com you will be able to search by geographic area
and send emails to those near you.
Don
Don Cameron, Victoria, BC, Canada
see the New Beetle EV project www.cameronsoftware.com/ev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Curtis Muhlestein
Sent: September 16, 2006 9:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Newbie
Hi everyone:
My name is Curtis Muhlestein, from Riverton, UT. This is my first time to
this discussion group. I am interested in building an EV from the ground
up, and would like to know who in this discussion group lives in Northern
Utah where I can contact them through email and make arrangements to see
their EV's.
Thanks,
Curtis
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Just now (I'm an idiot) checked evalbum.com to see how close I am to someone
that has a converted car and found that one was in arkansas, less than 20
miles away and he has a karmann ghia he converted
VERY sharp looking car :o)
I just emailed him and it didn't bounce so if you like I can ask him if
he'll let me video portions of his car if you want input on how someone else
has done it :oD
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From: "Paul G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Karmann Ghia conversion - autostick
On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Doug Weathers wrote:
You bet. <http://www.electroauto.com> does. <http://www.evparts.com>
carries another one. <http://www.ev-america.com> sells a clutchless
adapter. I'm sure there are more.
But then, how many adapters does a person need?
A good local machine shop, and a Ruland shaft coupler, can make a nice
small shaft coupler. Its quite tolerant about motor spacing (extra spline
length.) You only need to get an IRS VW Bus input to main shaft coupler
from a rebuild shop or wrecker, a Ruland shaft coupler (I used the
CLC-18-18-F that cost about $35 in 1998), and you have to cut off the
pilot bearing end of the VW input shaft.
Going this route does require you to get a 4-speed transaxle but I
wouldn't trust the wimpy, tiny, autostick clutch to hold up to electric
motor torque anyway. While you're getting a 4-speed I recommend you pay a
few hundred dollars for a freshly rebuilt unit and spec that they use the
earlier style steel shift forks (quite a few rebuilders don't want
anything to do with the later bronze ones anyway.) The early style
transaxle in my '64 EV Buggy has had no problems as a clutchless EV using
the described coupler (I've just ignored Ruland's 3000 rpm rev limit :-)
Paul G.
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Chris,
You might start with Brent (and his dad Kent) Singleton in Salt Lake City.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mike Bachand
Denver Electric Vehicle Council (DEVC)
1994 Kawasaki Ninja EV
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Also, Chris, I should be completing my EV in a few weeks, and I was
going to invite the nearby EVers to come by for the grand first run. So
you're welcome to come for that. If any of you other Utahns are
interested, contact me off-list.
Bill Dennis
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Chris,
There's also me, Bill Dennis, in Salt Lake City. David Dymixion
(sp?) in Draper, and Ryan Bohm in Logan. Ryan sells EV parts, too, on
his web site: www.evsource.com.
Bill Dennis
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Bill,
Thanks for the info. I have been chatting with Ryan for more than a month
now and have driven to Login to see his car.
Thanks again,
Curtis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Dennis
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Newbie
Chris,
There's also me, Bill Dennis, in Salt Lake City. David Dymixion
(sp?) in Draper, and Ryan Bohm in Logan. Ryan sells EV parts, too, on
his web site: www.evsource.com.
Bill Dennis
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Any tips on where I might find a transmission adapter for my 95 Ford Probe
2L manual 5sp trans??
I hear is is possibly the same as a Mazda (it is a Mazda engine in the car).
Thanks
Rick Barnes
Aloha, OR
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Posted by: "JS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ab6oh
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:32 am (PDT)
Item 150034429740
This is really underbid. I'd snipe it if I wanted it. It has 4 to 5
thousand dollars in parts in it. The body & interior are acceptable. The
down side is that it was turned into a two seater. Lawrence Rhodes.
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"It had twice the storage capacity of an electric double-layer capacitor"
:-(
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From: "Danny Ames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:54 AM
Subject: 100 times the power of a standard alkaline battery.
Found this article on slasdot.org.
Danny...
http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2006-07/06-022.html
PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Brown University engineers have created a new battery
that uses plastic, not metal, to conduct electrical current. The hybrid
device marries the power of a capacitor with the storage capacity of a
battery.
A description of the prototype is published in Advanced Materials.
"Batteries have limits," said Tayhas Palmore, an associate professor in
Brown's Division of Engineering. "They have to be recharged. They can be
expensive. Most of all, they don't deliver a lot of power. Another option
is capacitors. These components, found in electronic devices, can deliver
that big blast of power. But they don't have much storage capacity. So
what if you combined elements of both a battery and a capacitor?"
A new kind of battery
Tayhas Palmore, associate professor of engineering, left, and Hyun-Kon
Song, a former postdoctoral research associate, figured out how to combine
the advantages of batteries and capacitors in a plastic hybrid device.
That's the question Palmore set out to answer with Hyun-Kon Song, a former
postdoctoral research associate at Brown who now works as a researcher at
LG Chem, Ltd. They began to experiment with a new energy-storage system
using a substance called polypyrrole, a chemical compound that carries an
electrical current. Discovery and development of polypyrrole and other
conductive polymers netted three scientists the 2000 Nobel Prize in
Chemistry.
In their experiments, Palmore and Song took a thin strip of gold-coated
plastic film and covered the tip with polypyrrole and a substance that
alters its conductive properties. The process was repeated, this time
using another kind of conduction-altering chemical. The result: Two strips
with different polymer tips. The plastic strips were then stuck together,
separated by a papery membrane to prevent a short circuit.
The result is a hybrid. Like a capacitor, the battery can be rapidly
charged then discharged to deliver power. Like a battery, it can store and
deliver that charge over long periods of time. During performance testing,
the new battery performed like a hybrid, too. It had twice the storage
capacity of an electric double-layer capacitor. And it delivered more than
100 times the power of a standard alkaline battery. But Palmore said the
new battery's form, as well as its function, is exciting. In width and
height, it is smaller than an iPod Nano. And it's thinner, about as slim
as an overhead transparency.
"You start thinking about this polymer and you start thinking that you
can create batteries everywhere out of it," Palmore said. "You could wrap
cell phones in it or electronic devices. Conceivably, you could even make
fabric out of this composite."
Palmore said some performance problems - such as decreased storage
capacity after repeated recharging - must be overcome before the device is
marketable. But she expects strong interest. Battery makers are always
looking for new ways to more efficiently store and deliver power. NASA and
the U.S. Air Force are also exploring polymer-based batteries.
"What we've got is a good concept," Palmore said. "Put electroactive
molecules into conducting polymers and you can come up with all sorts of
interesting materials that store energy."
The National Science Foundation funded the work.
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Gents,
This may change your plans to have the tool machined a bit. Last night
on my way to bed I grabbed one of the BB600 cap tools just to look at
it to see how I would need to modify one to fit into the 90 degree
corners of my batt box. For the first time I saw some lettering on it.
Tiny letters and a part number on a shoulder molded into the shoulder.
Not easy to see. Turns out it's the company name and part number for
the cap tool. And on their website without shipping it's $12.25 for
each cap tool. Not only that you can order replacement caps of all
types for the cells too.
So why make them when they just could be purchased? Turns out they are
made of Polyamide. That's a tought and chemical resistant material.
Here is the cap tool.
http://www.reblingplastics.com/Accessories.htm
Here are approved distriutors.
http://www.reblingplastics.com/distributors.htm
Here is the price list.
http://www.reblingplastics.com/listprice.htm
I've not called anyone to check stock/prices because it's Sunday here.
I have a money order and two checks here from Steve G., Robert R., and
Ralph M. If you guys want your checks back so you can get the cheaper
deal that's ok with me. Let me know as I have the packaging and cap
tools ready to ship them out today.
For those that have paid me already, so sorry I didn't see this sooner.
Like I said I just discovered the info at around midnight last night
and am posting the info as soon as I could, sitting here in my
bathrobe.
Mike
PS I have only 2 cap tools left if the 3 fellows that I have checks for
still want theirs.
PSS The Stainless Steel milspec boxes weigh 12 lbs with a few pieces of
mylar shims inside. The shipping box that they came in weighs 5.75 lbs.
So we are looking at approximately 17.75lbs for shipping each BB600
milspec box. Check your shipping costs from 95133 and let me know if
you want these bad boys still. Some of you made claims to a couple. If
you still want them knowing the weight, let me know. I'll take $40 for
each box + shipping. I can ship Priority mail or FedEX and UPS, but no
Parcel Post. Parcel post means I have to spend 45 minutes in line at
the Post office to save you money :)
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Eric Poulsen wrote:
Does anyone have any advice on how to pull the bearings without shelling
out big $$$? Or similar advice on putting the new bearing on?
If you're replacing the bearing anyway, it's ok to pull on the outer
race. It will dent the balls or races, but so what?
--
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget the perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
--
Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
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Wouldn't the gap between the floor and car need to be pretty small?
Can I afford an Inductran system for my house?
jack
Lee Hart wrote:
Jack Murray wrote:
guess we need a more real practical challenge, here's one,
I want to charge the car by just pulling into the driveway or garage,
no cables to plug in, forget to unplug, etc. Just drive in, and it
starts charging. Ideas? Some inductive thing on the bottom of the car?
how about using high powered laser to transmit charge.
simple mechanical method, whiskers drop down and make connection?
should work at a gas station too in the future.. drive in, sit for a
bit and charge, then pull away.
Inductran has been making industrial chargers like this for decades.
Basically, half of a 60hz transformer is mounted under the vehicle, and
the other half buried in your garage floor. Drive over the "hot spot",
and it completes the transformer and charges.
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Just an FYI,
Discovery will be airing the Save The Planet Stunt series otherwise known
as the Cool Fuel Roadtrip starting Sept 23, 2006 on The Science Channel.
It is a fun series that displays the positive aspects of using alternative
energy to propel them across the USA. They use a lot of electrics and
demonstrate the many ways available to charge them up without using the
grid. The Vogelbilt motorcycle did great and is used in much of the trip.
The Voltbuggy is used in episode 12 and did well considering we drove it
hard for about 8 miles filming before the trip over Mingus mountain with
no top off on the charge! Bob's Your Uncle!
Here is a link to the Science channel site:
http://science.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=1&cpi=118303&gid=14744&channel=SCI
Also, here is a short article about the filming at my site:
https://www.dm3electrics.com/
Hang in there,
Mario
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I'm not sure this is what's in your motor but I presume that you need
tape that has high dielectric strength and can withstand high
temperatures. McMaster has polyimide (Kapton) Film Tape that is often
used in transformers and should work for your brushholders.
Oh, I just bought a GE forklift motor on ebay that I will be fixing
up so keep the posts coming as I find them most interesting.
-peter
On 9/16/06, Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm trying to clean up my brush holder assembly. It has a lot of dirt
and paint on it. I removed the two bus bars that connect brush holder 1
to 3, and 2 to 4, when it occurred to me that *maybe* I should pay
attention to where they were connected. It seems to me that it doesn't
really matter how I put them back, as long as they connect opposite
brush holders, right?
Which leads me to my next question. These two bars are semicircular,
and overlap each other for 90 degrees. One actually lays on top of the
other. The upper bar is painted black (and gray from some over-zealous
painting of the exterior), and the lower bar is wrapped in tape. This
must be some sort of electrical super-tape. Anyone know what it is or
where I can get it?
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See EV convert.com, he is doing a probe now.
http://evconvert.com/eve/
Mark Dutko
San Francisco
On Sep 17, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Rick Barnes wrote:
Any tips on where I might find a transmission adapter for my 95
Ford Probe
2L manual 5sp trans??
I hear is is possibly the same as a Mazda (it is a Mazda engine in
the car).
Thanks
Rick Barnes
Aloha, OR
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My buddy with the ACP Saturn boaught it inductive charging. What a
beast. The mass under the car was like 2' x 3' and weighed maybe 50
lbs. Then there was the mass on the ground that you were suppose to
drive over. It's a piece of cake to charge toothbrushes this way and
even some medical hardware we made in the 70's. But for an EV it would
need some serious engineering to make it more convenient and less of a
hastle or hazard.
Mike
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I like a little bs'ing and speculative problem solving, but this is
> going on and on.... :)
>
> guess we need a more real practical challenge, here's one,
> I want to charge the car by just pulling into the driveway or garage,
> no cables to plug in, forget to unplug, etc. Just drive in, and it
> starts charging. Ideas? Some inductive thing on the bottom of the car?
> how about using high powered laser to transmit charge.
> simple mechanical method, whiskers drop down and make connection?
> should work at a gas station too in the future.. drive in, sit for a
bit
> and charge, then pull away.
> Jack
>
> Ryan Stotts wrote:
> > Jack Murray wrote:
> >
> >> gee, fellas, all this talk about something that we don't even know
> >> actually works let alone exists and is available?
> >
> >
> > You want to talk about Curtis controllers, watering 6 volt batteries,
> > and 20 mile range instead?
> >
> > Or putting ~6,000+ Li batteries in an EV and the fact there is no off
> > the shelf, universal BMS for them?
> >
> > Or if any of the existing air cooled AC motors would work in an EV and
> > the need for an inverter to drive them?
> >
> > Or the Zilla shortage or how many DC motors and which size to put on a
> > single shaft?
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > This 3500V ultra cap is the most exciting and promising thing I've
> > seen in quite a while. The aluminum battery is pretty good too...
> >
> >
>
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Sounds great!
Will be cool if somebody here captures the series and puts it on BitTorrent
for those of us who don't have this channel. Anybody?
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From: "DM3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Save The planet Stunt - Cool Fuel Roadtrip - lots of EVs
Just an FYI,
Discovery will be airing the Save The Planet Stunt series otherwise known
as the Cool Fuel Roadtrip starting Sept 23, 2006 on The Science Channel.
It is a fun series that displays the positive aspects of using alternative
energy to propel them across the USA. They use a lot of electrics and
demonstrate the many ways available to charge them up without using the
grid. The Vogelbilt motorcycle did great and is used in much of the trip.
The Voltbuggy is used in episode 12 and did well considering we drove it
hard for about 8 miles filming before the trip over Mingus mountain with
no top off on the charge! Bob's Your Uncle!
Here is a link to the Science channel site:
http://science.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=1&cpi=118303&gid=14744&channel=SCI
Also, here is a short article about the filming at my site:
https://www.dm3electrics.com/
Hang in there,
Mario
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oops, he sold it 2 years ago :o/
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From: "Mark McCurdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Karmann Ghia conversion - autostick
Just now (I'm an idiot) checked evalbum.com to see how close I am to
someone that has a converted car and found that one was in arkansas, less
than 20 miles away and he has a karmann ghia he converted
VERY sharp looking car :o)
I just emailed him and it didn't bounce so if you like I can ask him if
he'll let me video portions of his car if you want input on how someone
else has done it :oD
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From: "Paul G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Karmann Ghia conversion - autostick
On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Doug Weathers wrote:
You bet. <http://www.electroauto.com> does. <http://www.evparts.com>
carries another one. <http://www.ev-america.com> sells a clutchless
adapter. I'm sure there are more.
But then, how many adapters does a person need?
A good local machine shop, and a Ruland shaft coupler, can make a nice
small shaft coupler. Its quite tolerant about motor spacing (extra spline
length.) You only need to get an IRS VW Bus input to main shaft coupler
from a rebuild shop or wrecker, a Ruland shaft coupler (I used the
CLC-18-18-F that cost about $35 in 1998), and you have to cut off the
pilot bearing end of the VW input shaft.
Going this route does require you to get a 4-speed transaxle but I
wouldn't trust the wimpy, tiny, autostick clutch to hold up to electric
motor torque anyway. While you're getting a 4-speed I recommend you pay a
few hundred dollars for a freshly rebuilt unit and spec that they use the
earlier style steel shift forks (quite a few rebuilders don't want
anything to do with the later bronze ones anyway.) The early style
transaxle in my '64 EV Buggy has had no problems as a clutchless EV using
the described coupler (I've just ignored Ruland's 3000 rpm rev limit :-)
Paul G.
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Guys, guys.. don't you see where we are going with this?
If you have 100 lb energy storage which is feet by feet by feet in size
it's soooo convenient to swap.
It'll take few secs to swap it at "quick charging station". Propably
they will be leased not sold anyway. An automatic swapping station.
Kinda drive in thing.
Normally people would charge over night at home and occasionally swap
it. As they are checked everytime they are swapped and charged no bad
ones would be in circulation.
Also as they would survive enormous amounts of cycles they would not be
worn off so quickly. Profits to make in leasing business.
Also you could swap your very cheap glider to newer one and use same
enrgy storage.
We have already gas stations all over where these oil guys can get their
lands in profitable use. And they can serve the diminishing ICE
population until they are all gone at the same.
Crashing a EV with such a small pack would not be an issue. How badly
car needs to be crashed to get the small pack in the middle of the
vehicle crushed ? No survivors propably anyway....
I have to admit that multiplying the existing Lion battery performance
in all respects gets my dreams a bit more wet. :B~
-Jukka
Mike Phillips kirjoitti:
My buddy with the ACP Saturn boaught it inductive charging. What a
beast. The mass under the car was like 2' x 3' and weighed maybe 50
lbs. Then there was the mass on the ground that you were suppose to
drive over. It's a piece of cake to charge toothbrushes this way and
even some medical hardware we made in the 70's. But for an EV it would
need some serious engineering to make it more convenient and less of a
hastle or hazard.
Mike
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I like a little bs'ing and speculative problem solving, but this is
going on and on.... :)
guess we need a more real practical challenge, here's one,
I want to charge the car by just pulling into the driveway or garage,
no cables to plug in, forget to unplug, etc. Just drive in, and it
starts charging. Ideas? Some inductive thing on the bottom of the car?
how about using high powered laser to transmit charge.
simple mechanical method, whiskers drop down and make connection?
should work at a gas station too in the future.. drive in, sit for a
bit
and charge, then pull away.
Jack
Ryan Stotts wrote:
Jack Murray wrote:
gee, fellas, all this talk about something that we don't even know
actually works let alone exists and is available?
You want to talk about Curtis controllers, watering 6 volt batteries,
and 20 mile range instead?
Or putting ~6,000+ Li batteries in an EV and the fact there is no off
the shelf, universal BMS for them?
Or if any of the existing air cooled AC motors would work in an EV and
the need for an inverter to drive them?
Or the Zilla shortage or how many DC motors and which size to put on a
single shaft?
;)
This 3500V ultra cap is the most exciting and promising thing I've
seen in quite a while. The aluminum battery is pretty good too...
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On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 01:46:08AM +0300, Jukka Järvinen wrote:
> If you have 100 lb energy storage which is feet by feet by feet in size
> it's soooo convenient to swap.
This is true. But if you can charge this guy in minutes, and you already
have a group of these packs (or a much larger single pack), why not
just fast cars?
You could even fast charge PbA cars with one of these crazy banks of ultra
caps.
Isn't it true that moving massive amounts of energy is easier with high
voltage systems?
Seems like a winner to me.
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Hi folks, This came in on the EV Album site. Does anyone know of an
outfit down under that can handle this? If so, I can forward the info to them.
To whom may concern
Where from Perth, Australia. Our website is www.thtsales.com.au
I would like some information on Converting out FORD panel vans to electric
drive, can you or do you know who is the best company to help me out?
Best regards
John Hare
Thanks,
Mike Chancey
Webmaster
EV Photo Album
http://evalbum.com
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