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Hehe.
Well, perhaps you should get one in the US?
:)
Nikki.
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From: nikki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A John Wayland update
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:11:07 +0000
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Yeah John,
Hope Cheryl's good soon. Hospitals are not nice places (Just tell her
to not ride around in those electric bedchairs ;) )
Nikki.
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On 12 Dec 2006, at 03:34, Jim Husted wrote:
> Hey all
>
> I got a call from John today (well actually I called
> him first, but anyway) When he called me back he told
> me his wife Cheryl had taken a bad spill and in fact
> he was calling from the hospital. I just thought
> there would be plenty of people here that would want
> to know and for EVeryone to send a little prayer or
> well wish their way. Hope you're not pissed at me
> John for spilling my guts to the world(hey you can
> kick my ass later) but Cheryl's every bit an EV'er as
> anyone here.
>
> Anyway (John) you let her know the Husted family sends
> our love and hope she's back to new real soon.
> BTW SEE she told you to pick up that damn E-scooter!!!
>
> Cya all
> Jim Husted
>
>
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Subject: Belktronix?
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Hi all,
I was searching eBay a while back and I came across a
DC/DC converter sold by a company called Belktronix.
Website is www.belktronix.com. They seem to have
pretty good deals on their stuff, and it appears to be
good quality and well thought out.
I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences
with this company, good or bad, or knows anything
about them. I'd never heard of them before, so I
figured it would be a good idea to get a reality
check.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Andrew
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Subject: Re: Belktronix?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:19:35 -0800
To: [email protected]
I ordered the pre scaler he makes for the e-meter. Great price, super
fast shipment, well documented. He also responds quickly.
M
On Dec 12, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Andrew A. wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was searching eBay a while back and I came across a
> DC/DC converter sold by a company called Belktronix.
> Website is www.belktronix.com. They seem to have
> pretty good deals on their stuff, and it appears to be
> good quality and well thought out.
>
> I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences
> with this company, good or bad, or knows anything
> about them. I'd never heard of them before, so I
> figured it would be a good idea to get a reality
> check.
>
> Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:13:36 -0600
From: "Mike Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: article comparing efficiencies of battery and FC evs. Nice simple
chart.
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Andrew,
Looking through the website, I noticed that the controller needs a 24 tap
from the traction pack. That means that two of the 12V batteries ( or 4
batteries, if they're 6 volters) will have more load on them than the rest.
Even if it's a light load, to me, that's just not the best way to do it.
And it means you have to have another high voltage line coming from the
traction pack.
You won't find a need for a mid-pack tap on a Zilla, or even a Curtis.
This may or may not be a real indicator of how well everything is designed,
but it makes me wonder if other shortcuts were taken.
Phil
>From: "Andrew A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Belktronix?
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:54:46 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hi all,
>
>I was searching eBay a while back and I came across a
>DC/DC converter sold by a company called Belktronix.
>Website is www.belktronix.com. They seem to have
>pretty good deals on their stuff, and it appears to be
>good quality and well thought out.
>
>I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences
>with this company, good or bad, or knows anything
>about them. I'd never heard of them before, so I
>figured it would be a good idea to get a reality
>check.
>
>Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
>Andrew
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Electric Car Motor on Google
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Actually if it looks like a small number of IP addresses are clicking
on the same advert many times, google will ban that advertiser because
it looks like click-fraud.
Google banning GM. Now that would be funny.
-Mike
On 12/11/06, Myles Twete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rod-
>
> > came across an interesting fact. The search term for "electric car motor"
> > for the number one position is bid at $5.00 per click. The second
>
> Does this mean that if 200 people clicked that link 1000 times each that GM
> would have to dish out $1M to Google? Or does the per-click price drop as
> click count goes up?
>
> It seems to me that this game can backfire on them if that link gets hit a
> lot.
> Even GM has budget limits.
>
> -Myles
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:17:29 -0600
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Erg, I might have got that backwards. You will get banned from making
money off google adsense if it looks like you are faking traffic
through the ads.
My bad.
-Mike
On 12/12/06, Mike Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually if it looks like a small number of IP addresses are clicking
> on the same advert many times, google will ban that advertiser because
> it looks like click-fraud.
>
> Google banning GM. Now that would be funny.
>
> -Mike
>
> On 12/11/06, Myles Twete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rod-
> >
> > > came across an interesting fact. The search term for "electric car motor"
> > > for the number one position is bid at $5.00 per click. The second
> >
> > Does this mean that if 200 people clicked that link 1000 times each that GM
> > would have to dish out $1M to Google? Or does the per-click price drop as
> > click count goes up?
> >
> > It seems to me that this game can backfire on them if that link gets hit a
> > lot.
> > Even GM has budget limits.
> >
> > -Myles
> >
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:24:53 -0500
From: "Sean Korb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On 12/11/06, Steve Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yep. The motor is huge.
>
> 234 lb
> 13.5" diameter
> 17.5" length
>
> It "may" fit in a pickup or a big car. Then, you need a minimum of 18 x
> 12 V to run it up to a maximum 26 x 12 V. I'd say put it in an old vintage
> VW bug and hang it off the back - there is pleanty of open space behind the
> car. But, where in the world can you fit a minimum of 18 batts in one of
> those? The length would almost fit in my old Festiva project, but I'm
> almost positive the diameter would hit the CV joints (I think 11" is the
> biggest that would fit).
>
I've really thrown my friend for a loop. He wants to build an EV, and he
never drives his 1968 Ford Thunderbird. I put the ideas together for him,
and now he can't sleep. Are the motors on the east coast? The T-bird has
suicide doors and already weighs 4400lbs. Take the 1000lbs of motor and
transmission out and fill the poor thing up with batteries. It wouldn't be
fast, but it might go 30 miles with 8 or 9 people stuffed in it.
Just thinking out loud. This is fun :)
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From: Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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You mean to say you don't have a way to equalize your batteries?
Hmm, someone who doesn't is taking THE BIGGEST SHORTCUT themselves.
Jack
Phil Marino wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> Looking through the website, I noticed that the controller needs a 24
> tap from the traction pack. That means that two of the 12V batteries (
> or 4 batteries, if they're 6 volters) will have more load on them than
> the rest. Even if it's a light load, to me, that's just not the best
> way to do it. And it means you have to have another high voltage line
> coming from the traction pack.
>
> You won't find a need for a mid-pack tap on a Zilla, or even a Curtis.
>
> This may or may not be a real indicator of how well everything is
> designed, but it makes me wonder if other shortcuts were taken.
>
> Phil
>
>> From: "Andrew A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Belktronix?
>> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:54:46 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was searching eBay a while back and I came across a
>> DC/DC converter sold by a company called Belktronix.
>> Website is www.belktronix.com. They seem to have
>> pretty good deals on their stuff, and it appears to be
>> good quality and well thought out.
>>
>> I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences
>> with this company, good or bad, or knows anything
>> about them. I'd never heard of them before, so I
>> figured it would be a good idea to get a reality
>> check.
>>
>> Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
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On my VW Bug race car I moved the firewall up to 5" from the rear door
pillar and the package tray is just below the quarter windows so there is
pretty
much unlimited room back there for batteries. Also I have a fiberglass tilt
front end that could house another 6 - 10 batteries up there but for me I want
as many in the rear as possible so the car launches fast pulling the front
wheels up and transferring the load onto the rear tires.
Jeffrey
Subject: ceramic heater short
To: [email protected]
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As far as I can tell, my ceramic heater is in full short.
That would explain the early demise of my relay.
I put a light bulb across the positive feed 156 Volts to the positive of
the ceramic heater and read 156 Volts.
I put a 120 Volt lightbulb on it to make sure it wasn't just bleed voltage.
It is brightly lit for about a minute, so not just the small capacitor that
was wired across this same wire.
Any thoughts, Is this how a ceramic heater fails (in full short?)
In an S10, is there an easy way to get to the ceramic heater to diagnose or
is it really buried?
I might also have a short in the wiring which I hope, but either way its a
good search for the fault in cold weather.
Ben
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At 02:48 PM 12/12/06 -0500, Ben wrote:
>As far as I can tell, my ceramic heater is in full short.
>That would explain the early demise of my relay.
>
>I put a light bulb across the positive feed 156 Volts to the positive of
>the ceramic heater and read 156 Volts.
>I put a 120 Volt lightbulb on it to make sure it wasn't just bleed voltage.
>It is brightly lit for about a minute, so not just the small capacitor that
>was wired across this same wire.
G'day Ben, and all
What was the voltage across the heater when you were doing this?
This is a simplified description of why I ask: If you have a 120 watt light
globe and put it in series with a 1200watt heater, then 90% of the voltage
will be across the globe and 10% across the heater.
Ideally, just measure the current in the loop, and the volts across the
heater. A 120V 1200W heater would measure somewhere in the order of 12
ohms, but ceramic heater resistance varies with temperature.
Hope this helps
Regards
[Technik] James
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You will go nowhere with it's 150w max limit !
3A under 48V...
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Subject : RE: Load testing methods
An interesting option for load testing is the CBA (computerized battery
analyzer) offered at www.westmountainradio.com . Operating at up to 48v,
it'll discharge a battery or bank to prescribed voltage discharge limits at
constant load and store the data to your USB-attached computer...might be a
spendy option...
Here's the CBA link: http://www.westmountainradio.com/CBA.htm
-MT
> - How to make a battery tester, this is from Joe Smalley
>
> 1) Take a coat hanger with .093 wire, it will draw about 150 amps
> from a 12 volt battery, 100 amps from an 8 volt battery or 75
> amps from a 6 volt battery.
>
> 2) Parallel two or more to get more current.
>
> 3) Connect the coat hanger to some 6 gage or larger jumper cables
> and submerge the wire in water. Don't use a plastic bucket. The
> hot wire can make it leak.
>
> 4) Connect your voltmeter to the battery terminals of the battery
> under test.
>
> 5) Connect the jumper cables to the battery terminals.
>
> 6) Wait for a fixed amount of time (your choice on how far you
> want to discharge the batteries) and read the final voltage.
>
> Disconnect the jumper cables from the battery and record the
> voltage. The bad ones show up pretty quickly using this test.
>
> Rush
> Tucson AZ
> www.ironandwood.org
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Had a young guy catch sight of this over my shoulder and he went "WOW".
Don't see that reaction usually with most of the Chinese e-scoot
product...
>From the little burg of Chongqing (population 14.5 million), the City
of Double Happiness (and one of Chinas most polluted):
http://www.newstargroup.com/showproduct.asp?ProductID=447
or tinyURL here:
http://tinyurl.com/yx4f4x
Suspect specs aside, this scoot is made (designed?) a thousand miles
west of Yongkang, but it looks like it's from a different planet?
I don't know "motorcycles" at all, so I was just curious whether this
little EV really is a unique design (outside) or again just some copy
of a design (gas?) from somewhere else?
No idea about pricing or availability, or handling or anything else.
Don't know if it's EVen a good design!
tks
Lock
Toronto
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Subject: RE: Acceleration Sim Problem
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:48:19 -0500
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Thanks to you and to Don on the discussion of the use of CarTest.
I had already found the Q4D site. I prefer standalone applications rather
than online apps so I can save input/output for comparisons of multiple
configurations.
By profession, I am a naval architect. When working early-stage ship
design, we often have to explore what I call "the shape of design space". I
view ship and car design as a collection of vectors where each vector
represents a different dimension of the design. Dimensions include design
facets beyond the three physical dimensions we normally consider. For
example, it takes about 200 of those vectors to define the displacement of a
ship, in addition to the physical dimensions, the technologies involved, and
so forth. Either fortunately, or unfortunately, almost none of them are
truly independent of one another.
So.... Being able to review a lot of input/output pairs lets me find
favorable and unfavorable areas to explore more fully.
Alan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Roland Wiench
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Acceleration Sim Problem
There is a Current and Acceleration Calculator at:
www.geocities.com/hempev/EVCalculator.html
This is a modified Uve's Electric Vehicle Calculator.
Page all the way to the end to the Current and Acceleration Calculator.
There is also a link in the original Uve's Calculator where you can see the
formula's for this calculator.
Roland
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: Acceleration Sim Problem
> Thanks for the suggestion. I went to their web site and have a couple of
> questions, if I may -
>
> 1. Since an electric motor power curve usually doesn't look anything like
> an ICE power curve, how well does CarTest 2000 allow a user to
> characterize
> the physics of an EV?
>
> 2. It appears that the application stores input and output data in an
> internal database. Can the data be exported to another application or
> database format? My thought here was that an ICE is commonly simulated
> with
> a theoretically infinite gas tank, whereas an EV needs to deal with the
> reality of battery draw-down. So it becomes important to be able to allow
> for that side of the calculation loop - and I really hate re-keying data.
>
> Alan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Don Cameron
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Acceleration Sim Problem
>
> I gave up on my acceleration spreadsheet, and now use CarTest2000. Much
> more versatile and accurate.
>
>
>
>
> Don Cameron, Victoria, BC, Canada
>
> see the New Beetle EV project www.cameronsoftware.com/ev
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Alan Gideon
> Sent: December 10, 2006 8:45 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Acceleration Sim Problem
>
> I have been working on an EV acceleration sim in Excel. In my attempts to
> get things going, I postulated a 2000# EV with a TransWarP 11 motor,
> figuring that I should see really decent acceleration and prove that my
> equations are OK. Not OK. I would appreciate any help that a list member
> might find the time to provide. The file is at the bottom of the page at
> GeeOne.talkspot.com. All of the terms for each calc and each time step
> are
> pretty well documented at the top of the worksheet "Acceleration per
> Gideon". I started with the Brant equations, characterized the ADC
> FB1-4001
> and the NetGain Impulse 9 and TransWarP 11 motors, and run out the Brant
> numbers for an EV version of my Miata. The acceleration calc, which
> should
> have been an easy time step sim, has been the problem.
>
> Humbly requesting a second set of eyes on the problem.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
From: "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: Load testing methods
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:41:02 -0800
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> You will go nowhere with it's 150w max limit !
> 3A under 48V...
I suppose you're right.
Their target customer is after all the RC modeler using from relatively low
cap 1-8 NiMH or LiPo cells. But for those of us using 6v batts, that
150watt equates to 25amps, which is good enough to yield an 8hr discharge
rate on a T-105 in testing a single battery. You'd need their 500w
amplifier module ($470) to get decent discharge rates for large cap batts:
http://www.westmountainradio.com/CBAAmplifier.htm
At 500watt, you'd be in the 0.5-1.0C range for a good YT or GP70 Hawker.
But at nearly $600 to do this load testing, it's spendy.
I might spring for the $110 for the 150w one...I do enough RC modeling to
justify it alone.
-Myles
>
> An interesting option for load testing is the CBA (computerized battery
> analyzer) offered at www.westmountainradio.com . Operating at up to 48v,
> it'll discharge a battery or bank to prescribed voltage discharge
> limits at
> constant load and store the data to your USB-attached
> computer...might be a
> spendy option...
> Here's the CBA link: http://www.westmountainradio.com/CBA.htm
> -MT
>
> > - How to make a battery tester, this is from Joe Smalley
> >
> > 1) Take a coat hanger with .093 wire, it will draw about 150 amps
> > from a 12 volt battery, 100 amps from an 8 volt battery or 75
> > amps from a 6 volt battery.
> >
> > 2) Parallel two or more to get more current.
> >
> > 3) Connect the coat hanger to some 6 gage or larger jumper cables
> > and submerge the wire in water. Don't use a plastic bucket. The
> > hot wire can make it leak.
> >
> > 4) Connect your voltmeter to the battery terminals of the battery
> > under test.
> >
> > 5) Connect the jumper cables to the battery terminals.
> >
> > 6) Wait for a fixed amount of time (your choice on how far you
> > want to discharge the batteries) and read the final voltage.
> >
> > Disconnect the jumper cables from the battery and record the
> > voltage. The bad ones show up pretty quickly using this test.
> >
> > Rush
> > Tucson AZ
> > www.ironandwood.org
> >
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:19:30 -0000
From: "Mike Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Load testing methods
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When I first saw that unit I wondered if it could be hacked to report
10 or 100 times what it's spec'd for? Adding more load is not that
hard. Just getting it to cooperate might be.
Mike
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>
> You will go nowhere with it's 150w max limit !
> 3A under 48V...
>
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> Cc :
> Date : Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:46:03 -0800
> Subject : RE: Load testing methods
>
> An interesting option for load testing is the CBA (computerized battery
> analyzer) offered at www.westmountainradio.com . Operating at up to
48v,
> it'll discharge a battery or bank to prescribed voltage discharge
limits at
> constant load and store the data to your USB-attached
computer...might be a
> spendy option...
> Here's the CBA link: http://www.westmountainradio.com/CBA.htm
> -MT
>
> > - How to make a battery tester, this is from Joe Smalley
> >
> > 1) Take a coat hanger with .093 wire, it will draw about 150 amps
> > from a 12 volt battery, 100 amps from an 8 volt battery or 75
> > amps from a 6 volt battery.
> >
> > 2) Parallel two or more to get more current.
> >
> > 3) Connect the coat hanger to some 6 gage or larger jumper cables
> > and submerge the wire in water. Don't use a plastic bucket. The
> > hot wire can make it leak.
> >
> > 4) Connect your voltmeter to the battery terminals of the battery
> > under test.
> >
> > 5) Connect the jumper cables to the battery terminals.
> >
> > 6) Wait for a fixed amount of time (your choice on how far you
> > want to discharge the batteries) and read the final voltage.
> >
> > Disconnect the jumper cables from the battery and record the
> > voltage. The bad ones show up pretty quickly using this test.
> >
> > Rush
> > Tucson AZ
> > www.ironandwood.org
> >
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:23:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I need to find someone to ship my EV from Provo, UT to Atlanta, GA
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Any suggestions?
Anyone know who e-volks uses and if the are any good? That are also in the
Provo area. I've had nothing but bad experiences with everyone that I have
done business with in the past.
Thanks,
Steve
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:29:13 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Belktronix?
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Thanks for the input, guys.
I wasn't planning to get the controller (I have a
Raptor 600). Mainly, I was looking at the DC-DC. I
still see what you mean, though. The DC-DC doesn't
seem to have any shortcomings, but as always, any
thoughts on the subject would be welcome.
As a side note, I haven't really been thinking about a
battery EQ. Is this something that is really
necessary, even for a bare bones conversion (seriously
limited budget here)? If so, can anyone recommend a
good system?
Thanks again.
Andrew
--- Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You mean to say you don't have a way to equalize
> your batteries?
> Hmm, someone who doesn't is taking THE BIGGEST
> SHORTCUT themselves.
> Jack
>
> Phil Marino wrote:
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Looking through the website, I noticed that the
> controller needs a 24
> > tap from the traction pack. That means that two
> of the 12V batteries (
> > or 4 batteries, if they're 6 volters) will have
> more load on them than
> > the rest. Even if it's a light load, to me,
> that's just not the best
> > way to do it. And it means you have to have
> another high voltage line
> > coming from the traction pack.
> >
> > You won't find a need for a mid-pack tap on a
> Zilla, or even a Curtis.
> >
> > This may or may not be a real indicator of how
> well everything is
> > designed, but it makes me wonder if other
> shortcuts were taken.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >> From: "Andrew A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Belktronix?
> >> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:54:46 -0800 (PST)
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I was searching eBay a while back and I came
> across a
> >> DC/DC converter sold by a company called
> Belktronix.
> >> Website is www.belktronix.com. They seem to have
> >> pretty good deals on their stuff, and it appears
> to be
> >> good quality and well thought out.
> >>
> >> I was just wondering if anyone has had any
> experiences
> >> with this company, good or bad, or knows anything
> >> about them. I'd never heard of them before, so I
> >> figured it would be a good idea to get a reality
> >> check.
> >>
> >> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:34:34 -0500
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Looks more-or-less like a child's toy, top speed is only 28kph, so it
wouldn't be very safe in traffic.
Lock Hughes wrote:
> Had a young guy catch sight of this over my shoulder and he went "WOW".
>
>
> Don't see that reaction usually with most of the Chinese e-scoot
> product...
>
> >From the little burg of Chongqing (population 14.5 million), the City
> of Double Happiness (and one of Chinas most polluted):
>
> http://www.newstargroup.com/showproduct.asp?ProductID=447
> or tinyURL here:
> http://tinyurl.com/yx4f4x
>
> Suspect specs aside, this scoot is made (designed?) a thousand miles
> west of Yongkang, but it looks like it's from a different planet?
>
> I don't know "motorcycles" at all, so I was just curious whether this
> little EV really is a unique design (outside) or again just some copy
> of a design (gas?) from somewhere else?
>
> No idea about pricing or availability, or handling or anything else.
> Don't know if it's EVen a good design!
>
> tks
>
> Lock
> Toronto
> Human/Electric Hybrid Pedestrian
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I was planning on using optimas in my conversion for performance but for
economy and range i would like to use wet cells. These batteries are not the
exact same size and i was wondering if anyone knew how or where i could buy
or make an adjustable battery rack that will still be strong.
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kinda reminds me of the ENV fuel cell motorcycle...
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>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:34:34 -0500
>
>Looks more-or-less like a child's toy, top speed is only 28kph, so it
>wouldn't be very safe in traffic.
>
>Lock Hughes wrote:
>>Had a young guy catch sight of this over my shoulder and he went "WOW".
>>
>>
>>Don't see that reaction usually with most of the Chinese e-scoot
>>product...
>>
>> >From the little burg of Chongqing (population 14.5 million), the City
>>of Double Happiness (and one of Chinas most polluted):
>>
>>http://www.newstargroup.com/showproduct.asp?ProductID=447
>>or tinyURL here:
>>http://tinyurl.com/yx4f4x
>>
>>Suspect specs aside, this scoot is made (designed?) a thousand miles
>>west of Yongkang, but it looks like it's from a different planet?
>>
>>I don't know "motorcycles" at all, so I was just curious whether this
>>little EV really is a unique design (outside) or again just some copy
>>of a design (gas?) from somewhere else?
>>
>>No idea about pricing or availability, or handling or anything else.
>>Don't know if it's EVen a good design!
>>
>>tks
>>
>>Lock
>>Toronto
>>Human/Electric Hybrid Pedestrian
>>
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