EV Digest 6449
Topics covered in this issue include:
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2) EVLN(UCD's C2H6O plug-in hybrid fuel economy an obsolete metric)
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3) EVLN(Efficient eco AF hybrid 2008 NZ Rally Championship Race)
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4) EVLN(EV use means fuel tax will bring in less Gov revenue)
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5) EVLN(PSA Peugeot-Citroen 308 diesel-electric hybrid)
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6) EVLN(MIT's Light Cheap Foldable EV)
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7) SCR's offered
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9) EVLN(WhiteStar production @ Albuquerque Telsa EV plant)
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10) EVLN(EV-X: Utility's EV Charging Discount)
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11) EVLN(IR CEO Lidow built his own EV: 70mph, 70mi range)
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12) Battery load tester
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13) EBEAA Meeting - this Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 in Palo Alto, CA
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14) Re: NiMH D size battery closeout
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15) Re: "New" motors for the KillaCycle
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16) SCR details and pictures
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17) Re: Battery load tester
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And now they are complaining about the noise
by Abhishek Gundugurti
Just when you thought that people will start loving electric,
hybrid and green cars, there comes another group which has
another complaint about them. What now you ask? It seems they are
too silent to be driven on roads??? What? Really? If they are so
silent, why didnt we have them earlier is what I would have
asked.
Anyways, this group complained that the electric car is so silent
that pedestrians might have a problem with it. They said blind
people, elderly, kids etc will have the car creep up on them! I
mean, they did a research on the noise levels and things of that
sort. We had the car drive by in different situations, to see
whether or not people could hear it and use the sound of the car
to safely cross the street, and they could not. The car was just
silent, National Federation for the Blind spokesman John Pare
said.
Its an electric car! Its duty is to go quietly and drive
emission free. Its like saying the Harley Davidson is too loud.
Its their nature to be loud (harleys not electric cars.) What I
argue here is, the electric cars are designed to save the
environment. Save some fuel which is depleting fast. They are not
built to make noise and be heard. They are supposed to be seen to
believe. Not heard to find. Barbara Pries, a member of NFBs
pedestrian security committee, said no blind person has been
killed by a hybrid car but some have reported having near
accidents.
Its just a matter of time before people are going to get injured
and killed, she said. Sure, thats like saying its just a
matter of time before people start getting killed by guns when
you hand them out to children. I mean seriously woman! Its an
electric car. And I am damn sure it will not cause a big big pile
up on highway 67 when there is a high speed accident. So yes, it
is safer than other road cars. Its safer because it takes you to
where you want to go at a safe speed. And it wont scare the
living hell of people by zooming up next to them and giving them
a heart attack!
Anyways, people always complaint when things change. They cant
accept change because they dont know how it will affect them.
But the sad thing is, when the world runs out of petrol, those
people are really in for a shocker!
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Home > Science & Tech Recharging transportation
Plug-in hybrids offer solutions to problems of greenhouse gas
emissions, fuel economy
By: Chintan Desai Issue date: 2/21/07 Section: Science & Tech
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Andrew Frank stands with Team Fate's latest entry into the
Challenge X competition. The Trinity vehicle runs on three
sources of energy: ethanol, electricity and solar power.
While standard power outlets are most commonly used for plugging
in kitchen appliances and electronics, consumers may soon be
using them to recharge the batteries in their cars at night.
Though the idea may seem farfetched, members of Team Fate, a
campus group dedicated to engineering vehicles that can obtain
energy sustainability and reduce greenhouse gas emissions,
believe that the plug-in hybrid vehicle is the most imminent step
toward the reduction of oil dependency.
"The technology is here; we can do this," said Terrence Williams,
student director of the Hybrid Electric Vehicle Center.
How they work
According to the group's website, for the past 14 years UC Davis
has been at the forefront of the technology, with students
creating and demonstrating the first plug-in hybrid vehicles.
Currently, the group is working on the Trinity, a Chevrolet
Equinox they are transforming into a plug-in hybrid for Challenge
X, a yearly competition featuring 17 universities trying to
maximize the performance of their environmentally conscious
vehicles.
The process of building the vehicle required team members to
completely take apart the components present in the original car
and replace them with their own. According to Williams, the group
built a new transmission and installed the engines and batteries
necessary for the hybrid vehicle to work.
Once on the road, the car shifts from using gasoline to using
electricity. Williams said a consumer could recharge the car's
battery at night and drive to work electrically until the battery
power is depleted, at which point the car automatically switches
to its gasoline engine. Currently, the vehicles can travel
between 40 and 45 miles solely on electric power.
The plug-in hybrid differs from other electric vehicles in that
consumers are not limited by the car's electric range and
consumers have the option of driving all-electrically.
According to Andrew Frank, a professor in the department of
mechanical and aeronautical engineering and faculty adviser for
the group, the vehicle presents significant solutions to the
issues of fuel economy and greenhouse gas emissions.
Frank said the most important impact would be the reduced
dependency on oil, pointing to the vehicle's use of 90 percent
electricity and 10 percent gasoline. Frank noted that the liquid
fuel in the vehicles could be replaced by biofuels or other
renewable energy sources, thus completely removing oil in the
process.
According to Williams, the fuel economy would become an "obsolete
metric," with the electric power source offering virtually
infinite miles per gallon, and greenhouse gas emissions would be
limited to the times when the car is not running
all-electrically.
Additionally, consumers scared off by the initial 20 percent
marginal price increase over conventional cars can take solace in
the fact that charging the vehicle would be equivalent to buying
gasoline at 70 cents per gallon, according to Frank.
"The objective of the plug-in hybrid has always been
sustainability," Frank said. "That means how do we transition
from an oil society to a non-oil society with no sacrifices in
living standards and no sacrifices in performance?"
Widespread commercialization
According to Thomas Turrentine of the Institute of Transportation
Studies, major barriers thus far to the widespread
commercialization of plug-in hybrids have been the batteries and
the unwillingness of the automotive industry to begin development
on the vehicles. Batteries need to become cheaper, longer-lasting
and smaller and the automotive industry needs time before moving
forward with its investments, he said.
However, both Frank and Williams were far more critical in their
views toward car manufacturers.
Frank said that while his students have clearly demonstrated that
the vehicles can be made, car companies would rather not change
their business models.
"The car companies don't want to [make plug-in hybrids] because
they'd rather not change their current production and [instead]
build cars that will use more and more gasoline because they know
how to do that, they're making money at it, so why should they
change?" he said.
When asked if he could give a timetable for the widespread
commercialization of the plug-in hybrids, Williams responded, "I
can't project that because I'm not a politician. If [car
companies] wanted to, they could do it today."
In January of this year, General Motors unveiled the Volt, a
plug-in hybrid concept car capable of storing electricity from
energy carriers such as hydrogen, gasoline and bio-diesel.
However, Jeffrey Clark, a customer relationship specialist with
General Motors, said in an e-mail interview that the company is
not making a production announcement, nor will it predict when
the car will come to market.
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RALLY Hybrid Vehicles to Race in 2008 Rally Championship
Hybrid and alternative fuel vehicles developed by teams of
engineering students at New Zealand universities will be racing
in the New Zealand Rally Championship in 2008. They will also run
as a support class in the WRC Propecia Rally of New Zealand the
same year.
The Tertiary Hybrid Open Rally Challenge (TORC) was established
in 2004 and now has the support of both AUT and Unitech, two of
the countrys leading applied technology universities. Other
institutions with engineering faculties are also being encouraged
to join TORC.
Competition CEO Kevin Dwyer said the aim was to promote use of
energy efficient, eco friendly vehicles while providing an outlet
and practical testing ground for existing and future research
into alternative fuels and other energy sources.
MotorSport New Zealand has supported TORC and developed
supplementary technical regulations to cover the cars, which will
run in the two wheel drive Kiwi 2 class. The Sustainable Business
Network has also swung in behind the organisation.
The engineering teams must use an existing two wheel drive shell
but must design and develop hybrid electric power trains. In all
other respects the cars will be conventional rally cars with a
full range of safety equipment.
Its a very practical way to get young engineers to think about
future alternatives and to do so in a competitive environment,
he said. It will also help the public appreciate that it is
still possible to enjoy motorsport in an eco-friendly way.
In November a hybrid electric vehicle won the under 1,000 cc
class in the UK 2006 Formula 1000 rally championships at its
first attempt. That car was developed to run on E85 bio-ethanol
fuel and had a CVT transmission.
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http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/2007/2007947/bitter_drivers_pay__again_and_again
Local News in Reading Bitter drivers pay again and again!
THE prospect of pay-as-you-go road pricing to relieve congestion
on Britains roads is causing confusion and bitterness.
[...]
Car-haters like some green groups and even some councils want
desperately to curtail use of the roads by car drivers. They see
some form of taxation as the only way of doing so. This is simply
because they know full well that people dont want to use public
transport. And even if they did, public transport cannot cope
with the demand.
If we are to solve our transportation problems on a national
scale then we need to put in place mass public transportation
schemes that run on time and to budget. This needs to be done
first before we force drivers off the roads by taxing them to a
degree that driving becomes intolerable.
[...]
However, there are now so many people who want to exercise their
right to free movement that we are approaching a crisis point. In
some cases this is simply because local councils and road
planners are inept at managing traffic flow.
Hence some form of road pricing (yet another tax) has been touted
as the way out. There are many ways to do this. We could make all
road use prohibitively expensive. Fuel tax could be trebled,
special vehicle taxes could be devised, vehicle excise duty (tax
disc) could be quadrupled.
[...]
Within a short time well see the end of the petrol engine (and
the diesel one too). The age of the electric car is fast
approaching. New battery technology is developing fast.
Lithium-ion batteries (which power laptop computers) can be used
in place of old lead-acid ones. [...] All this means that fuel
tax (on petrol and diesel) will bring in less and less revenue
for the Government.
So, its not just for congestion or green reasons that the
Treasury is looking to other ways of charging drivers for road
use. If we are to pay for road use then surely the excise duty
(tax disc) and fuel taxes must be scrapped.
Drivers cannot, and should not, be expected to pay, overpay, then
pay again.
[...]
Taxes never seem fair, though everything has to be paid for.
Whats eating car drivers is that not only do we overpay, we pay
again, and again.
A road toll by any other name.
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France: PSA reported to be planning 308 diesel-electric hybrid
By Automotive World staff writer (ANK) 20 February, 2007
Source: Automotive World
PSA Peugeot-Citroen plans to develop a diesel-electric hybrid
powertrain for its 308, the successor to the 307, a report in
Automotive News Europe claims.
According to the report, the 308 will be PSA Peugeot-Citroen's
first diesel-hybrid car
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A vehicle with Diesel electric drive wants to bring the French
PSA company still in this year on the market. That Diesel-hybrid
is the magazine of "automotives news Europe" into the new Peugeot
308 to be built, wants from enterprise circles to have
experienced. The consumption of the vehicle is to be with 3,4
litres of Diesel per 100 of kilometers, corresponds to a
CO2-Ausstoss of 90 gram per kilometer.
PSA had already presented the Diesel hybrid technology in
vehicles of Peugeot and Citroen, had however only placed the
ready for the market one for 2010 in prospect. Largest problem is
the high price, which lies after present conditions around
approximately 6,000 euro over a comparable diesel engine. Peugeot
wants to press extra costs on 1,500 euro.
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Media Lab Making Light, Cheap, Foldable Electric Car
By Robert Weisman The BOSTON GLOBE
Will the car of the future be foldable?
That's the vision of a team of researchers at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology's Media Lab. With backing from General
Motors Corp., they are building a prototype of a lightweight
electric vehicle that can be cheaply mass-produced, rented by
commuters under a shared-use business model, and folded and
stacked like grocery carts at subway stations or other central
sites.
It's called the City Car, and the key to the concept lies in the
design of its wheels. Dreamers have been reinventing the wheel
since the days of cave dwellers. But the work underway in "the
Cube," the Media Lab's basement studio, may be the most ambitious
remake yet.
The MIT team has transformed the lowly wheel into a sophisticated
robotic drive system that will power the City Car. Embedded in
each of its four wheels will be an electric motor, steering and
braking mechanisms, suspension, and digital controls, all
integrated into sealed units that can be snapped on and off.
And under the hood ? well, there won't be a hood on the City Car.
Just an eggshell-shaped glass plate part roof, part windshield
framing the modular cabin and stretching almost to the
chassis.
"We're eliminating the internal combustion engine," said Media
Lab research assistant Ryan C. Chin G, studio coordinator for
City Cars. He said the four electric motors will enable a more
efficient use of power by also dispensing with the transmission
and driveline. "We're removing as much hardware from the car as
possible."
In its place will be software that sets passenger preferences,
changes the color of the cabin, controls the dashboard look and
feel, and even directs drivers to parking spaces. "We think of
the car as a big mobile computer with wheels on it," Chin said.
"This car should have a lot of computational power. It should
know where the potholes are."
And like a computer, the car will start with the push of a
button. Instead of a steering wheel, it has handlebars, akin to a
scooter or motorbike. But the ride will be more like a
traditional car, though smoother and quieter, Chin said. The body
of the car will be made of lightweight composite material such as
Kevlar or carbon fiber.
Among the car's other design departures are its folding chassis,
enabling it to be stacked at designated parking areas across an
urban area, where it could also be recharged. It also has a
zero-turn radius, courtesy of a wheel configuration that provides
omnidirectional motion. For the City Car, the traditional U-turn
will be replaced by an O-turn, ideal for fitting into tight
spaces.
The concept of the City Car was hatched by the Media Lab's Smart
Cities group, as part of a strategy for reducing carbon
emissions. The team is being led by William J. Mitchell,
professor of architecture and media arts and sciences.
Some of the Jetsonesque design of the City Car was inspired by
the researchers' work with pioneering architect Frank Gehry, a
friend of Mitchell, and associates at Gehry's architectural firm
in Los Angeles. Gehry's firm was initially a partner, but has
since scaled back its involvement to an advisory role.
Media Lab researchers are planning to have their prototype
completed by the end of the year.
"I think we'll be driving it around the interior of this
building," Chin said, "and hopefully ask the MIT police to let us
drive it around a parking lot."
The three-year-old project is moving forward under the watchful
eyes of liaisons from General Motors, a Media Lab sponsor, and
MIT researchers hope the automaker will build a City Car concept
vehicle in 2008 to demonstrate at auto shows.
GM devotes a portion of its $6 billion-plus annual
research-and-development budget on university projects such as
City Car to help its own researchers think out of the box, said
Roy J. Mathieu, a GM staff researcher in Warren, Mich., who
visits the Media Lab twice a semester and keeps in close contact
with Chin's team.
"They're a rich cauldron of ideas we can use to develop concepts
for our future cars," Mathieu said. "They're trying to imagine
how the car will fit into the city in the future. Their ideas are
interesting and intriguing, and we want to see if any of them fit
into our technology road map."
Rebecca Lindland, director of automotive research at Global
Insight in Lexington, said City Car is one of a number of
futuristic designs being developed by automakers and independent
labs to demonstrate new technologies and concepts at a time of
growing concern about global warming, traffic, and energy
efficiency.
"The existing infrastructures can't support the population growth
that we're seeing, so we're going to have to find viable
alternative vehicles like the one MIT is designing," Lindland
said.
Unless the cars can prove crashworthy and meet government speed
and emissions standards, however, their applications may be
limited to gated communities and entertainment parks, she said.
Chin said the design remains a work in progress, and if necessary
the team will reinforce the car to make it crashworthy.
As the MIT researchers envision it, the City Car won't replace
private cars or mass transit systems but ease congestion by
enabling shared transportation in cities.
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100
and will sell them for a very low price, which would be less than $20 each I
imagine.
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organise a 1 off bulk buy. They are the puck type of SCR, come on a mounting
frame with large threaded bolt connections which also seems to heatsink the
device.
They are in the post to me so i can give exact details once they arrive.
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China BAK Battery: Roth Capital Conference Presentation Transcript
Posted on Feb 20th, 2007
TRANSCRIPT SPONSOR China BAK Battery, Inc.
Roth Capital Conference February 20, 2007 11:30 am ET
Executives Jim Groh - U.S. Representative
Presentation Jim Groh
Good morning everybody, thank you for joining us. We'll be
talking about our company, China BAK Battery this morning. I
probably can't get through every slide in detail, so what I will
do is try and hit the high points with you this morning.
This is our Safe Harbor statement and an advertisement from our
Attorney Lou, who is in the front row. If you have any questions
on that, I will be happy to answer them, which is pretty standard
(inaudible).
To tell you a little bit about our company, we are one of the
worlds largest and fastest growing battery cell manufacturers.
What we make are lithium-ion cells and they are the power part of
a lithium-ion battery.
[...]
We are seeing lithium power
technology is migrating now into a number of new high power
application and basically it comes down to fundamental core
chemistry as Dr. Mao will relate to you. Lithium, if you look at
the periodic table is the lightest metal, a pretty good place to
start.
As far as application, there were a number of them that the
company is currently involved with or we are targeting, may be
you can see there is a wide array of applications
[...]
There's an emerging interest for our technology in the vehicle
space Hybrid Electric Vehicles, Light Electric Vehicles, as well
as Uninterruptible Power Supply.
[...]
A little bit about the high-power cells. We are very pleased last
year to be partnered with a company. We are a supplier to a
company called A123. We are working with them. We manufacture a
very high-power cell.
[...]
Lithium polymer, a lithium polymer as far as product
configuration varies all over the map. You can see these are
lithium polymer cells as well as these are. They are utilizing
small format batteries that customize in size and shape for
specific applications
[...]
Our R&D organization focus is not to invent new technology. It is
the take our strength which is the ability to reduce at lab
technology to practice and scale it in a manner that we do so, in
a very, very low cost manufacturing environment.
Our facilities, we have a 90-acre industrial campus in Shenzhen,
which includes an R&D center. We have over 2 million square feet
of manufacturing space and at last count over 10,500 employees.
We are planning our next expansion will be in Tianjin. We have
committed to purchase some land there for some development of new
products.
[...]
And there is a whole area of high-power. We've established
production of this product in 2006. We supply A123 with a
technology called nano-lithium phosphate based cells for their
high power applications. The initial application I talked about
was Black & Decker DeWalt division, and our goal there is supply
A123.
We've also announced our plans to be in the high-power business.
We are planning a facility in Tianjin. Our target applications
are the uninterruptible power supplies in the light electric
vehicle, potential applications for the technologies in the
hybrid electric vehicle. We haven't fully disclosed our plans on
that and as we get closer [in searching] but once it arrives on
revenue opportunities and customer development, we will get back
to you and tell you exactly when and what's going to be made in
that facility.
[...]
We are in a very good market, it's a very large and growing
market and it's growing in China. They are expanding number of
product opportunities no one knows where lithium power technology
is going to end up. But you read some of the exciting things in
the Hybrid Electric Vehicle space, where some of the things that
the technology could potentially impact in the uninterruptible
power supply business. We really think when the first chapter of
a technology thats going to be around for a long time. We have a
recurring revenue stream in our business, we sell the installed
base. We think thats a good place to be.
[...]
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http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/02/19/rocketeer-musk-launches-electric-car/
Rocketeer Musk Launches Electric Car Author Leonard David
Spacex lead rocketeer, Elon Musk
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk ], may not have got his
Falcon 1 booster up and operating as yet, but hes got a spark of
an idea when it comes to electric cars.
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson announced February 19 that
Musk is planting a new Tesla Motors automobile assembly facility
in Albuquerque.
Musks Tesla Motors, based out of San Carlos, California, will
use the plant to produce its WhiteStar car - a four door, five
passenger sports sedan which is 100 percent electric.
The first cars will roll off the assembly line in the fall of
2009, and Tesla will produce at least 10,000 cars each year. The
vehicle will cost $50,000 for the standard model or $65,000 for a
preminum model with greater performance and range.
Tesla begins production of its first vehicle later this year, a
zero-emission two-seat Roadster at a facility in England owned by
Lotus Cars.
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Tuesday, February 20, 2007
ZAP Electric Car and Truck Qualify for Rebates From Alameda Power
EV-Friendly City Alameda Plugs New ZAP Dealer O'Connell EV
ALAMEDA, CA, Feb 20, 2007 - A rebate program sponsored by Alameda
Power & Telecom [ http://alamedapt.com ] will pay for much of the
electricity needed to recharge a new electric car and truck from
ZAP, one of the highlights from the Feb. 10 grand opening for
O'Connell EV in Alameda, California.
Alameda Power has a special rate for electric vehicle (EV)
charging called the Supplemental Schedule EV-X, or Experimental
Electric Vehicle Charging Discount rate plan. The program is
designed to charge EVs during off-peak hours, between 8:00 p.m.
and 8:00 a.m. weekdays and all day on weekends and holidays. The
rate works out to be about six cents per kWh for a maximum of 250
kWh per month, about $15. See Alameda Power & Telecom's website
for further information at
[ http://www.alamedapt.com/electricity/rates/evx.html
Rates:
Very Light Duty Vehicles
(750 lbs.-1,999 lbs. gvw): 150 kWh/ month x $.06/ kWh
($9.00 per vehicle per month)
Light Duty Vehicles
(2,000 lbs.-4,999 lbs. gvw): 250 kWh/ month x $.06/ kWh
($15.00 per vehicle per month)
Medium Duty Vehicles
(5,000 lbs.-8,000 lbs. gvw): 350 kWh/ month x $.06/ kWh
($21.00 per vehicle per month)
Commercially-Operated Golf Carts and Fleet Vehicles: 50% of the
metered kWh for the separately-metered golf cart or fleet
vehicle charging facility.
If a participating customer can demonstrate that vehicle charging
consumption is significantly different than shown above, an
adjustment to the discount may be made at Alameda P&T's sole
discretion.]
Excess electricity generated at night can power millions of
electric cars, according to the Department of Energy. A recent
study found that off-peak electricity could generate most of the
electricity consumed by plug-in hybrid electric vehicles, meaning
an estimated 84 percent of the country's 220 million vehicles
could use off-peak electricity. Off-peak electricity is
considered to be an untapped renewable resource. A 2002 EPRI
Roadmap study estimates that the US would see a $88.9 billion
annual economic benefit assuming 25 percent plug-in vehicles by
2025 (See October 25, 2004 ZAPwatch). Power companies are
offering rebate programs to create incentives for the use of EVs
and Bill Garvine of Alameda Power issued praise for the opening
of the new dealership.
"The event was a great success," said Bill Garvine with Alameda
Power. "We typically offer rebates of about $15 per month for
plug-in vehicles, which means we can probably cover most of the
cost of XEBRA driving in Alameda. We have some users already with
vehicles like the old Corbin Sparrows, but we like ZAPs because
they're plug-in and they're good for us."
ZAP dealer Mike O'Connell said that despite the pouring rain he
had a lot of interest in the XEBRAs, with dozens showing up, more
than 40 test-drives, and a score of customers ready to place
orders. Alameda Mayor Beverly Johnson and Vice Mayor Lena Lam
were among the local dignitaries that were in attendance. The ZAP
dealership was created through a partnership between O'Connell
and Steve Lowery, a local pulmonary physician, or lung doctor.
[...]
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Relations Eveline Souza +1-707-525-8658 ext. 216
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+1-707-525-8658 ext. 232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: ZAP
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http://www.alamedapt.com/electricity/res_savings.html
Electric Vehicle Discount Program
Buy a registered electric vehicle and we'll provide you with an
electric rate discount. (The discount is based on the weight of
the vehicle.) Call 510-748-3945.
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Meet Alexander Lidow, CEO Of International Rectifier
By John Soat [EMAIL PROTECTED] InformationWeek
Feb 17, 2007 12:00 AM (From the February 19, 2007 issue)
Alexander Lidow is the CEO of International Rectifier, the
world's oldest semiconductor company, which was founded in 1947
by Alexander's grandfather, Leon, and his father, Eric, who
emigrated from Nazi Germany in 1937. It now has 5,800 employees
and operates in 20 countries. He has a doctorate in applied
physics from Stanford University and holds nine patents related
to semiconductor technology.
[Photograph by David Strick
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Alexander Lidow CEO of International Rectifier]
1 MONEY MATTERS
[...]
2 ALL AROUND (ALMOST)
[...]
3 SHORT CIRCUIT
As a teenager, Lidow built his own electric car. It had a 70-mile
range and a top speed of 70 mph. "One time I plugged it in at
school and shorted out the whole school. I very quietly unplugged
it and moved it out of the parking lot. I never got caught."
4 BETTER LIGHTS
[...]
5 COOL IT DOWN
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I'm about to buy a new pack of 8v floodeds for my car.
I usually read that folks who buy bulk batteries like this test each one
before they let the delivery guy go.
Obviously a just a voltmeter isn't the answer. Is there a load tester I can
buy or can I build one cheaply? I envision something like a string of
lightbulbs across the terminals while measuring voltage.
Thanks,
Rich A.
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*********START OF MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT***********
Topic: Annual National EAA Meeting
Date: Saturday, February 24, 2007
Time: 10 am to 12 noon.
Site: HP Headquarters
3000 Hanover St, Palo Alto
Visitors welcome, open to the public.
Our annual National Meeting coincides with our regular
meeting schedule, so we encourage all members to
travel the extra distance to this important meeting.
It will feature:
* Review of this past year's activities and efforts
* Exciting news about new EVs being developed, marked
and actually sold in 2007
* Installation of new members to the Board of
Directors
* Discussion of current issues and concerns by members
The Electric Auto Association was founded in 1967, 40
years ago, in San Jose, and has been going strong.
Over the years interest has ebbed and followed. How
interest is increasing due to the challenges of
maintaining our appetite for foreign oil and global
warming. Over the years the organization has
maintained focus as a non-profit educational
organization that promotes the advancement and
widespread adoption of Electric Vehicles.
Currently there are 38 Chapters in the USA and 4
Chapters in Canada. In the SF Bay Area alone there are
6 Chapters and 1 Special Interest Group. Membership is
international and is well over 1000 members strong.
Various members will be traveling from out of state to
attend this meeting, and others will participate via
teleconference. All EAA members have received postcard
reminders for this meeting and instructions on how to
join the teleconference if they are unable to
physically attend.
For those willing to carpool from the East Bay, we
will leave our Alameda meeting site (1515 Santa Clara
Ave) by 9AM at the latest in order to arrive before
the 10AM meeting start. There plans to be a wide
variety of EVs in the Palo Alto meeting parking lot.
Hope all can attend this meeting.
http://www.ebeaa.org
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I would second what Lee says here as these look like button top cells.
Probably designed for very low amperage drains.
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Hopefully Jim can chime in and tell us what he did to
these motors.
It looks like he increased the comm size?
Beefier brushes and copper braid connections"
Heavier bus bars to the stator winding connecting to
the brush braids along with increased insulation.
Kevlar banding around the rotor connections to the
comm bars?
Was bearing size increased?
Enquiring minds would like to know.
Thanks,
Rod
--- Bill Dube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Husted <http://www.HiTorqueElectric.com> did a
> fantastic job
> "souping up" the motors for the KillaCycle. I think
> it will take a
> lot more volts and amps to zortch these, now that
> Jim has worked his
> magic on them.
>
> They are so gorgeous, I had to post some pictures of
> them on the
> KillaCycle web site:
>
> http://www.killacycle.com/photos/motor-details/
>
> If you are thinking of building a high-performance
> EV, Jim is the man
> to go to for the motors.
>
> Bill Dube'
>
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I have uploaded some pictures fo these SCR assemblies should anyone wish to
see them. They're the most recent entry on my blog, here
_http://journals.aol.co.uk/fixitsan/electric-car-building/_
(http://journals.aol.co.uk/fixitsan/electric-car-building/)
Now that they've arrived I have hunted down the full specs and can confirm
the following.
Part Number = DCR504ST0909
Manufacturer Name = Various
Description = Silicon Controlled Rectifier
V(DRM) Max.(V)Rep.Pk.Off Volt. = 800
I(T) Max.(A) On-state Current = 420±
@Temp. (°C) (Test Condition) = 55
I(TSM) Max. (A) = 5.5k
@ t(w) (s) (Test Condition) = 10m
I(GT) Max. (A) = 150m
V(GT) Max.(V) = 3
I(D) Max. (A) Leakage Current = 30m
@Temp. (°C) (Test Condition) = 125
V(T) Max. (V) = 1.75
@I(T) (A) (Test Condition) = 1k
dv/dt Min. (V/us) = 200
Package = TO-200var42
Military = N
If anyone is interested in some, perhaps to upgrade a lower powered SCR
controller, or to build up a new one like me from gathered parts, please get in
touch ASAP
Chris
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Hello Richard,
I built my own battery load tester awhile back for testing 300 ah cobalt
cells. Use a 800 amp meter, a shunt, a 6 to 15 volt meter, a 12 volt 300
amp starter solenoid, a momentary switch to turn on the solenoid one length
of stainless steel welding wire that was about 1/8 inch in diameter and 36
inches long, and two large set screw terminal blocks.
The stainless steel wire was loop back and forth and the ends set in the
terminal blocks. Everything was install in a heavy aluminum plates that was
assemble in a enclosure that I had vent holes drill into it.
This length of wire would pull 300 amps for a 300 ah battery. Later I added
more wire to test 220 ah Exide batteries. I now have replace the wire with
about 1/16 inch diameter high temperature welding wire to drop this ampere
to 75 amps for my 260 ah Trojan battery.
According to the Trojan tech engineers, all you need is to load test this
type of battery for 75 amps which they do quickly on there assembly line.
My deep cycle batteries are rated for 145 minutes at 75 amps at 260 ah.
You now can buy a 75-100 amp load tester cheaper than I built this one 20
years ago.
Roland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Acuti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Battery load tester
> I'm about to buy a new pack of 8v floodeds for my car.
> I usually read that folks who buy bulk batteries like this test each one
> before they let the delivery guy go.
>
> Obviously a just a voltmeter isn't the answer. Is there a load tester I
> can
> buy or can I build one cheaply? I envision something like a string of
> lightbulbs across the terminals while measuring voltage.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich A.
>
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