Sounds to me like what was actually used on the 1995 Tropica?  

Peter Crisitello
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Series and parallel switching

On 2/5/2013 10:11 PM, Ds2inc wrote:
> Ideally yes the two motors. The goal is a 2 speed elec transmission 
> Without the Zilla and hairball. I'm running two pm motors with the 
> following, in a front wheel drive Saturn sl1 using 4-1 differentials 
> gear reduction on each motor vs the auto trans.
>
> MOTOR SPEC DATA: 97V  9 HP WITH 5,700 RPM 72V  6 3/4 HP WITH 4,200 RPM 
> 60V  5 3/4 HP WITH 3,500 RPM 48V  4 1/2 HP WITH 2,700 RPM 36V  3 HP 
> WITH 2,000 RPM 24V  1 1/4 HP WITH 1,100 RPM UP TO 21HP INTERMITTENT...

Sounds like an interesting approach.

The Zilla uses contactors to switch the between series/parallel (and
forwqard/reverse). It has logic to watch the contactors, and decide when to
switch for you. You would have to provide the equivalent of this in your
controller. The manual is online; you can look at the contactor setup and
see how it's done.

Basically, you wire up a set of contactors (or big switches) to do the
series/parallel switching. You will also need reversing contactors, since
you don't have a transmission with your setup. Finally, you need a main
contactor, to shut it off in case the controller goes berserk.

Depending on your wiring, there may be circumstances where it is dangerous
to turn on one contactor before another one turns off. The Zilla setup uses
contactors with auxiliary switches, so the hairball
*knows* whether a contactor has switched or not. For your setup, you'll want
to include something similar.

PM motors run at a speed controlled by the voltage. If you run them in
series, the current (torque) in each motor is the same, and the voltage
(speed) will self-adjust; they act like a standard differential.

If you run PM motors in parallel, their voltage is the same, and they both
run at the same speed. They behave like a limited-slip or locking
differential. Nice in snow or on a drag strip; but it leads to extra losses
in normal driving. Going around a curve, the outside motor is forced to turn
faster, so it becomes a generator, and is actually dragging the wheel
backward (negative torque). The current it generates drives the inside motor
harder, trying to make it turn faster.
--
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A truly excellent engineer will tell you the truth. -- D.C. Weber
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