That GE-11 sounds like a really good motor.  I love old industrial-duty
stuff.  <l:]


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Roland Wiench <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Mark,
>
> As I said before, the rear brushes are shunting the front brushes.  The
> rear
> brushes are closer to the armature circuit connections to the communtator
> bars, thus a more resistance path to the front brushes.
>
> This is normal in the three motors that I am using in my EV.  I run three
> types of motors in my EV. One is a WarP-9, a WarP-11 and a GE-11 which the
> WarP-11 motor frame is the same frame as a GE-11.
>
> I have run the GE motor for 10 years where the rear brushes worn down 1/4
> of
> the original length of 2 inches.  The front brushes only worn down about
> 1/8
> inch. Every 10 years as per GE maintenance, pull the motor, check spring
> tension, resistance tests and check the communtator surface.
>
> I had my motor shop verify if the communtator needed any work.  They said,
> do not touch it.  It still had a very smooth surface.
>
> It is noted that there were twice as many of communtator bars segments than
> the WarP-11 motor.  The brush angle is set very steep to where the brush
> face contacts five communtator bars where the it makes with the next bar,
> while the last bar is still in contact.  This results in no arcing.
>
> Also note the motor is design only for clock wise rotation looking at the
> pilot shaft of the motor.  If you run this type of motor in the reverse
> direction, you will chip the sharp edges of the brushes.
>
> The communtator bars are very hard and the brushes hardness are set one
> point lower in hardness than the bar hardness.  The brushes are very smooth
> looking like tool steel. They are a silver-graphite compound.
>
> The WarP-9 and WarP-11 motor brushes are much softer and will wear faster.
> You can get a option silver-graphite in the correct hardness for these
> motors.
>
> Every 10 years, I switch the rear brushes with the front brushes.  I am
> still running the brushes in the GE-11 for 24 years where both are now at
> the same length.
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Hanson" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:25 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] Dissimilar brush wear - data point
>
>
> > Hi Folk's,
> >
> >
> >
> > Since swapping the brush locations (front rear), the rear brushes that
> > were shorter are still wearing faster than the other 4 just now in the
> > front location so it appears that the first one's to seat, suck most of
> > the current (on the 9" "Impulse").  I ordered a milli-ohm meter (to
> > compare to the one I borrowed) to verify the .2 milli-ohm between the bar
> > that feeds the front brushes.  George at Netgain has been very nice
> > sending 3 sets of brushes over the last 10k miles since the motor is over
> > a year old and I'm sure out of warranty.  I'm just curious to what is
> > causing the disimilar brush wear and the pattern seams consistent.  It's
> > always the rear brushes that seat and then wear first shunting the
> current
> > away from the front.  But when I swap the positions the shorter brushes -
> > now on the front continue wearing fast (wear down in 3K miles).  I'm
> > treating the others like a spare tire, giving another 3k miles for 6k
> > total but most of the current is really gooing through a sing
> >  le brush instead of two, thus overcurrenting it and resulting in faster
> > wear.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > www.REEVA.info community service RE & EV's
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