Exactly John. The Schuko -socket is enough but it was voted among vehicle manufacturers that the for example Defa-products are lethal.
The death rate is astonishing to use these Schuko-sockets out doors. The statistics speaks it out: over 15.000.000.000 disconnect/connect actions during the past 10 years and no reported death cases. In Finland not even any reported accidents. So this is why it was reasonable to try to prevent Finland, Sweden and Norway to use these out side the houses. Anyone should buy the socket series for EV charging. Starting only at 300€ (rated for 120-200 disconnect-connect actions). Feasible cost for safety to buy 300€ sockets every year. Sorry. Being sarcastic again.. :P Fact is that the Schuko socket is rated only for few hours for that +3kW. You need to trim down the charger a bit to say 2500W if you wish to charge overnight (+10 hours). The connections in the female receptacle will get loose and the plastic on the male socket tends to stick to the pins when they are hot. Repeated heating and cooling wears it off. Making it a fire hazard. Unless you change the socket every 2 years. But that's 15€ in parts and available at every mart. Sounds business killer to automotive people. I've been happy Schuko EV user since 2001. :) -akkuJukka http://www.google.com/profiles/jarviju#about 2013/6/25 Hoegberg . <[email protected]> > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:47:12 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Battery video > > > > > They use the Volt for this and the Volt for that, that the Volt takes > > only 3 hours to recharge whereas claim it will take all day (or night) > > to charge an EV on level-2 when we know that automakers are now offering > > 6kW (full powered) on-board chargers that will recharge their larger > > capacity packs in the same 3 hour window. > > > > -What is level-X? > I think we only use kW and kWh here (Sweden) for power and energy, > still no electric-gallons of fuel and things like that.. I hope! :-) > > But maybe they will try here also, to give 1or3phase&dc some fancy > names, but I dont know any yet. Any normal driver will not know anyting > else than "plug", so, it is a normal wall /cord plug for 1 or 3phase > charging,, > > > We have "Shucko" as standard home-plugs for charging: > http://www.internationalconfig.com/icc6.asp?item=70225-10HG > "Shuko" , used with 6-16Amp fuses. This is 1-phase plugs. 230Vac > > It is our normal low power home indoor plug, used for "everyting" > 1phase. But it is max 3600W /each. And not the main voltage, > 230Vac exist between the neural(& earth) + one of the 3 phases in a home. > > For anything bigger (or better motors, maybe from 0.7 kW and up) > we will use a standard plug for the main voltage: 3phase 400Vac. > for example this RED plugs: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60309 > or adapters to older standards that is more common at the countryside. > > All houses that I know of have 3phase installations. > For main fuses I guess it is normal with 16-20Amps nowdays, for a large > house. Never ever like you have in USA 70-100 Amp(?) 1 phase low voltage > > Due to the insane high cost for 35-63 amp fuses/copper ..people like 10-16 > amps.. > , I dont think it is even possible to buy a 1-phase installation here. > > > Apartments have less, maybe 10-16Amps, not all apartments have 3phase yet. > > > > All normal charge-ports at work or home (the ICE-heater, with that Shuko > plugs) > can be as low fused as 6Amp 230V... > But after a full day at work..this is still enough for 99% of the > BEV-users! > > > > / John > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Hoegberg . wrote: > > > http:// youtu.be/ OtfKux9BUnE?t=14m55s > > > > > > Some info on degradation, SEI-growth and the problem with that, > > > Targets for EV industry > > > silicon nanowires, development of new chem, and so on. > > > > > > /John > > - > > > > -- > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130625/f998a7b3/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130625/c91619c6/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
