Or one that uses a thermal cutout switch inside the core of the reel - I have 
one - but it is rather cheap and nasty and I would not trust it.  For this 
reason and that of efficiency, I always fully unwind my long reel whenever I 
use it. MW


On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:43, Peri Hartman wrote:

> One could design a reel ESVE that would not allow charging unless the cable
> was fully pulled out.
> 
> Peri
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Evan Tuer
> Sent: 08 July, 2013 8:09 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Retractable Power Cord
> 
> I wonder if liquid cooled cables will come (back) into fashion for high
> power car charging cables..  This might actually make them smaller and
> lighter, and would still work at full power when coiled up!
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> rayfellow wrote:
>> 
>>> The trouble is power cords should not touch each other or cross over each
>>> other because of heat. A friend burned his house down because of fire
>>> caused
>>> by overlapping power cords.  I suspect manufacturers hesitate to offer
>>> such
>>> an item for fear of the liability.
>>> 
>> 
>> I can second that. I know of a nice EV conversion where the owner used a
>> cord on a reel for charging. There were plenty of warnings on the
>> packaging; "unreel cord before use" etc. But he ran 10-15 amps through it
>> to charge his EV with the cord still all reeled up. The cord melted,
>> shorted out, and luckily tripped the breaker before a fire started. But
> the
>> cord and its reel were completely destroyed.
>> 
>> It is *possible* to de-rate the cord enough so it won't overheat even if
>> left coiled up. But I think you would wind up needing such an oversized
>> wire that it would make the reel impractically large, heavy, and
> expensive.
>> 
>> They do make industrial-strength coil-cords. These would be a more
>> practical way to make a self-coiling charging cord.

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