Recharging an 85KWH battery pack in 5 minutes will require a 60 megawatt 
power source (assuming no losses).  At 90% efficiency there will be 6 
megawats of wasted power.  It will be very important to disconnect from 
the grid while the connectors are still in their liquid state, or the car 
will have a very short range.

Ed

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, brucedp5 wrote:

> 

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/516876/forget-battery-swapping-tesla-aims-to-charge-electric-cars-in-five-minutes/
Forget Battery Swapping: Tesla Aims to Charge Electric Cars in Five Minutes
By Kevin Bullis  July 16, 2013

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Tesla Motors is pushing the limits of charging technology to make electric
vehicles as practical as gas-powered cars.

Electric vehicles take too long to recharge. To charge a Tesla Model S just
halfway takes five hours at a typical home or public charging station. But
in its effort to make electric vehicles more practical, Tesla Motors is
quickly reducing the charging times. Last September, it unveiled a network
of “supercharging” stations—designed exclusively for its Model S and 
future
electric vehicles—that could charge a battery halfway in 30 minutes. In May,
it announced an upgrade that cut that time to 20 minutes. Now Tesla’s chief
technology officer, JB Straubel, says the company eventually could cut the
time it takes to fully charge the battery to just five minutes—or not much
longer than it takes to fill a gas tank.

Straubel isn’t referring to the battery swap technology Tesla recently
unveiled ... He’s talking about what might be a more appealing option for
drivers: recharging the battery in your car while you wait.

“It’s not going to happen in a year from now. It’s going to be hard. But I
think we can get down to five to 10 minutes,” Straubel said in an interview
with MIT Technology Review. He noted that the current superchargers, which
deliver 120 kilowatts of electricity, “seemed pretty crazy even 10 years
ago.” Conventional public charging stations deliver well under 10 kilowatts.

Tesla is far ahead of its competition with its supercharging technology. For
example, the most popular fast-charging technology today is based on the
Japanese Chademo standard, which enables 50-kilowatt charging. Even SAE
International’s brand-new fast-charging standard, which was finalized in
October and is being adopted by major automakers such as GM, tops out at 100
kilowatts.

One reason Tesla has pushed the technology so aggressively is that its
battery packs store more than three times the energy of its competitors’
electric-car batteries. As a result, they require more power to charge
quickly, says Arindam Maitra, a senior project manager at the Electric Power
Research Institute.

Straubel says Tesla has been able to rapidly improve charging because it
designs and builds all of the key components itself, including the chargers,
the electronics for monitoring the battery pack, and a cooling system for
the battery. They’re all optimized to work together in a way that’s not easy
for systems built to accommodate many different models of electric vehicles.

If an electric car is plugged directly into a wall socket, on-board chargers
take AC power from the wall, convert it to DC, and regulate the power
delivered to the battery. Fast charging or supercharging bypasses the
onboard charger; the AC-to-DC conversion happens outside the vehicle.

One challenge of fast charging is that delivering power to a battery very
rapidly can cause it to overheat. To avoid damaging the battery, the outside
charger needs to communicate with the electronics that monitor the state of
the batteries, including their voltage and temperature, and quickly adjust
charging rates accordingly. “To do that kind of charging, everything has to
be designed and working in perfect synchrony,” Straubel says.

Achieving five-minute charges will require not only further improving the
charging system, but also improving the interface with the electrical grid.
As it is, only some places on the grid can handle 120-kilowatt charging.
Drawing large amounts of power from the grid also incurs demand charges from
the utility, increasing the cost of the system.

But Straubel says that Tesla plans to get around these problems by equipping
supercharging stations with solar panels and batteries.

Storing solar power in batteries in the charging station could also be
helpful to operators of the power grid (see “Wind Turbines, Battery
Included, Can Keep Power Supplies Stable”). They could provide utilities a
way to moderate fluctuations on the grid, something that’s becoming more
important as more intermittent sources of power, such as solar and wind, are
added. Tesla plans to test such a system soon in California. It could charge
utilities for this service, which, Straubel says, could help offset the cost
of the stations.

Even though these fast-charging breakthroughs would be useful only on
Tesla’s cars, they still could be important for expanding the EV market.
Tesla plans to introduce cars in the $30,000 to $35,000 range in the next
few years.
[© 2013 technologyreview.com]



http://www.technologyreview.com/news/516876/forget-battery-swapping-tesla-aims-to-charge-electric-cars-in-five-minutes/
Forget Battery Swapping: Tesla Aims to Charge Electric Cars in Five Minutes 
Tesla Motors is pushing the limits of charging technology to make electric
vehicles as practical as gas-powered cars.



http://www.dailytech.com/Tesla+Building+Tech+to+Fully+Charge+EVs+in+Just+5+Minutes/article31990.htm
Tesla Building Tech to Fully Charge EVs in Just 5 Minutes
Tiffany Kaiser - July 17, 2013  Tesla Chief Technology Officer JB Straubel
recently said that the automaker is working on a charging system that would
get drivers out of the Supercharger stations and back on the road with a
full charge in just 5 minutes ...




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