Hi, 
What is "average" ?  15 or ..60kWh ?
What is "level":s of kW in usa ?
John

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> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 04:14:28 -0700
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> Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: SMUD installing Efacec's Dual-Standard CHAdeMO+Combo L3 
> EVSE
>
>
>
> IEEE-Spectrum: 200,000 Public Quick-Charging L3 EVSE by 2020
> Fast Electric Car Charger Growth To Explode
>
> http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1086510_ca-to-get-dual-standard-dc-quick-charging-for-electric-cars
> CA To Get Dual-Standard DC Quick-Charging For Electric Cars
> By Antony Ingram Aug 26, 2013 ht2 Brian Henderson
>
> [image
> http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2014-chevrolet-spark-ev-prototype-sausalito-ca-nov-2012_100409389_l.jpg
> SAE Combo connector in 2014 Chevrolet Spark EV prototype, Sausalito, CA, Nov
> 2012
> ]
>
> Charging stations rolling out across California will soon be compatible not
> only with existing CHAdeMO connections, but with newer SAE Combo connectors
> too.
>
> The Sacramento Municipal Utility District (SMUD) has for some time had plans
> for a roll-out of more fast charging points in the Sacramento area, but that
> has moved a step forward with the purchase of several Efacec DC fast
> chargers.
>
> The first of these will be installed at SMUD headquarters, says the
> Sacramento Electric Vehicle Association (SacEV), and be available to the
> public. And while initially the chargers will only support CHAdeMO
> connections--used by most existing electric vehicles--they have the option
> to be upgraded once cars using the SAE Combo connectors come on stream.
>
> These include an option on the new Chevrolet Spark EV arriving this fall, as
> well as upcoming BMW and Volkswagen electric vehicles. The two charging
> options means each of the SMUD/Efacec chargers will be able to serve every
> electric vehicle on sale in the U.S.
>
> As SacEV reports, the first such charger--CHAdeMO only, for now--was
> installed in Davis, California a few weeks back.
>
> The Efacec DC fast chargers are capable of charging the average electric
> vehicle in 30 minutes. An agreement with SemaConnect will give drivers
> several options for payment, including credit card, using a smartphone app,
> calling an 800 number or visiting a website. The J1772 Level 2 chargers
> installed next to each fast charger can be used for no fee.
> [© Green Car Reports]
> ...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combo_Coupler#IEC_62196-3_.E2.80.93_DC_Charging
> IEC 62196-3 – DC Charging
> ...
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-SMUD-installing-L3-EV-quick-chargers-just-off-main-highways-tp4664707.html
> EVLN: SMUD installing L3 EV quick chargers just off main highways
>
>
>
> http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/green-tech/advanced-cars/200000-ev-fast-chargers-by-2020
> 200 000 EV Fast Chargers by 2020?
> By Katherine Tweed 27 Aug 2013
>
> [images
> http://spectrum.ieee.org/img/Teslacloseup-1377621643908.jpg
> Tesla charging / Tesla
>
> http://spectrum.ieee.org/img/dc-fastcharging-forecast-1377622478971.jpg
> chart / IHS Automotive
> ]
>
> The number of fast-charging stations for electric vehicles (EVs) will
> balloon to 200 000 by 2020 from about 2000 today, according to a new report
> from IHS Automotive.
>
> The explosive growth is already underway, the study finds. The number of DC
> chargers are expected to triple to nearly 6000 between this year alone. Fast
> chargers use high-voltage DC power and can charge a car in less than a half
> hour instead of the hours it takes with lower voltage AC chargers.
>
> “IHS believes fast charging is a necessary step to promote higher adoption
> of EVs, but there will need to also be better consumer education regarding
> behavioral changes that may need to happen when owning an electric
> vehicle—such as charging overnight or at work,” Alastair Hayfield, associate
> research director at IHS Automotive, said in a statement.
>
> Some states, like Texas and California, are already installing super
> charging networks along highways or in highly populated areas. The
> Netherlands is building the world’s largest nationwide EV fast-charging
> network with more than 200 chargers. Some stores, such as Walgreens, are
> installing fast chargers wherever they can.
>
> Forecasts for chargers, fast or not, must be taken with a grain of salt.
> Many global forecasts for electric vehicles have overestimated the growth of
> the market. Fewer electric vehicles on the road means less of a need for
> fast chargers, which are far more expensive than their AC counterparts.
> Navigant Research estimates there will be 100 000 fast chargers worldwide by
> 2020, mostly in Western Europe and Asia.
>
> Some governments and EV enthusiasts who would like to see more electrified
> personal transportation see the fast charger as a chicken and egg problem.
> More fast chargers could reduce range anxiety, but it’s hard to justify the
> cost of a large network of DC fast chargers if it will be years before there
> is a critical mass of EVs on the road. Also, the price for DC chargers has
> already dropped significantly, and could continue to drop, so there could be
> a financial benefit to waiting.
>
> There is also a technology issue that could halt widespread rollouts. There
> is a standards war between Japan’s CHAdeMO and the Combined Charging System
> (CCS) from the Society of Automotive Engineers. The Netherlands will get
> around the issue by offering both standards on its chargers.
>
> The Japanese are pulling out ahead, according to IHS, which noted that
> nearly 80 percent of electric vehicles on the road today are
> CHAdeMO-compatible. There still is no clear winner. BMW and Volkswagen have
> both chosen CCS as the standard for fast charging on their electric
> offerings.
>
> Tesla is not worried about standards wars, as it uses proprietary technology
> for its superchargers. The company’s founder and CEO, Elon Musk, announced a
> nationwide supercharger network that will install DC fast charging every 100
> miles or so on major highways throughout the U.S. The 200 stations will be
> installed within two years. The stations will be free for Tesla drivers.
>
> “These Superchargers represent a powerful proposition for Tesla—drivers can
> charge faster, have U.S.-wide coverage by 2015 and will charge for free for
> life,” Hayfield said. “This triple threat will aim to lock drivers into the
> Tesla experience, and also will give Tesla a perceived advantage over other
> original equipment manufacturers competing in the same market.”
>
> There’s just one other issue that could impede the impressive growth of DC
> fast chargers: the grid itself. Walgreens found that when it installed
> electric vehicle chargers at 800 stores in 2011, only about 150 were DC fast
> chargers because many of the locations did not have the power infrastructure
> to install a 480-volt, DC charger. In most cases, the utilities were not
> interested in upgrading transformers or other infrastructure to support the
> chargers.
>
> The networks will also require more than just upgraded transformers to
> handle the extra load. If enough people plug in their cars during the
> hottest afternoons of the year, the load could be a significant strain on
> the grid. The EV Project, partially funded by the U.S. Department of Energy,
> has found that when people plug into fast chargers, they tend to fill up,
> instead of just topping off to get home.
>
> Ideally, fast charging networks would be built with advanced communications
> networks that connect to a local utility, so that the utility can
> dynamically charge the vehicles while still maintaining local reliability.
>
> Technology can manage some of the charging load, but the proliferation of DC
> charging will still have to come with increased awareness for EV drivers,
> argues Hayfield.
> [© 2013 IEEE Spectrum]
>
>
>
> http://www.earthtechling.com/2013/08/fast-electric-car-charger-growth-to-explode/
> Fast Electric Car Charger Growth To Explode August 29, 2013
> The fact we seem to be writing about electric car chargers every day lately
> plays well into new data from research firm IHS suggesting the number of
> stations ...
>
>
>
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-SMUD-installing-L3-EV-quick-chargers-just-off-main-highways-tp4664707.html
> EVLN: SMUD installing L3 EV quick chargers just off main highways
> Aug 12 2013
>
>
>
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Dual-CHAdeMO-SAE-Combo-Level-3-EVSE-Installed-in-VT-tp4663451.html
> EVLN: Dual CHAdeMO & SAE-Combo Level-3 EVSE Installed in VT
> Jun 07 2013
>
>
>
> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/12357-SAE-vs-CHAdeMO/page15
> SAE vs CHAdeMO - Page 15 - Tesla Motors Club - Enthusiasts ...
> Aug 15, 2013 ... Its one of the [ goe3.org EVSE] with both SAE [Combo] and
> CHAdeMO, ...
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