As for #1, 2V is probably ok but I don't have any test data or direct
experience on that to back up my "probably ok" statement.

#3: Only when I have overcharged a TS cell has the voltage stayed
above 3.38V for more than half a day. The best I've been able to
determine from many different sources and scientific articles is that
3.38V the theoretical 100%SOC at room temperature. They have to sit
for a day with no load after charging to determine if they are full
and remain that way. Test with a charge procedure like charge to 3.6V
and hold until current drops to 3A (for a 60Ah cell) and terminate
charging. Wait a day and see what the voltage is. If you charge at a
lower current then lower the ending voltage. I've found that charging
to 3.455V and holding for ~45 minutes after the charger ramps down to
~100mA on my 200Ah pack slightly undercharges my pack as determined by
the "charge and rest" method.

#4: if they have already swelled slightly they have already lost some
capacity. You might be able to get it to go away with compression for
a while (I did on a 40Ah TS cell one time but no longer have the cell
so don't know how it did/is doing) but I personally wouldn't spend the
money on them for an EV application. I might for an electric push
mower or something non-road going if the price were really cheap.
Otherwise it isn't worth the hassle. A quality pack of cells are a joy
to have. In my experience they don't drift and won't need balancing
but once in a long while. I'm at over 2 years with my pack.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:00 PM, EVDL Administrator <[email protected]> wrote:
> Forwarding for Buddy Mills - please respond online.
>
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>
> I have some questions about some LifePO4 batteries that I can possibly
> acquire.  They are new but older 60ah batteries produced by the now RIP
> International Battery.  They have been sitting for about 11 months.  The
> voltage on the majority is above 2.5volts, but on some it is below.
>
> Now for the questions.
>
> 1.        How far below 2.5 volts before I should write them off?
>
> 2.       I was told that they are USA made Thundersky.  Can anyone give me
> any more insight, or has anyone had any experience with them.
>
> 3.       After charging to 3.6 volts they rapidly drop to ~3.3 and then
> hold.  Is this normal for LiFePO4?  I was expecting them to hold longer at a
> higher voltage like a acid gel that I am used to using.
>
> 4.       As for swelling of the case, I know that that is a sign of a
> damaged cell, but all of them have a very slight bow, just enough to notice
> when you try to band them together.  Is this normal?  Should I just compress
> them and then band while compressed?
>
> I suspect that the whole group was charged and then stored.  From what I
> read, they should not have been stored at full charge, but what I really
> want to know is whether I am wasting time and money on them.
>
> Thanks in advance for any info anyone can give.
>
> Buddy Mills
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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