Roland,

Thanks for post that useful tidbit of data. Your results do a great job of
quantifying what many of us have believed for years, but have lacked some
"independent" method of confirmation.

-Tom


On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Roland Wiench <[email protected]> wrote:

> I drove my ICE for the first time this year.  I normally start it up once
> a month and run it for about 15 minutes, but not drive.  I drive it once a
> year adding a gallon of gas which cost $3.45 a gallon to freshen the
> remaining gas in the tank.
>
> Back in the 50's it cost me about $4.00 for 20 gallons of gas per month,
> so it feels very good, that it only cost me that much for the year.
>
> This vehicle is a sister vehicle to the EV with the same body style.  It
> uses a Holly fuel flow digital reader, where it displays instant gallons
> use, average miles per gallon use, distance travel and time of travel.
>
> To find out if the EV can travel the same route for a distance that might
> take 50% SOC to run, I first test the amount of fuel it takes to run this
> course with the ICE.  I normally run the ICE until I use the one gallon of
> gas.
>
> The ambient temperature was at 45 degrees F. The engine was at 65 degrees
> (garage) and move out right away without too much warm up over 2 minutes.
>  Start driving up the same steep hill I do with the EV which normally takes
> 2.2 AH, the average mpg read 4.7 mpg for the 1st mile.  The 2nd mile
> driving on level grade, it about double to 8.2 mpg.
>
> After 2 miles, the engine is warm up and now the running averaging 13 mpg
> in these roller coaster hills in this town.  Every time I stop for a
> traffic light which idles the engine for up to 1 to 2 minutes, the mpg can
> drop back to 8 mpg.  The EV with the idle off shows 0 motor and battery
> ampere during these stops.
>
> EV for 2 miles driving the same course with a battery temperature of 65 F
> normally gets 3.3 ah per mile, the down hill run shows 0 motor and battery
> ampere.
>
> I than can estimate that it could take about 8 miles x 3.3 ah = 26.4 Ah.
>  I normally drive the 8 mile route once a week with the EV and ampere hour
> usage has very from 18 to 22 ah.
>
> At 22 ah, it takes about 60 minutes to charge the batteries at 25 amps at
> 250 vac.
>
> Therefore 25a x 250v = 6250 watts or 6.250 kwr.  I pay about $0.10 kwr so
> this 8 mile run cost me about $0.625 for the EV as compare to the ICE at
> $3.45.
>
> Roland
>
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