Even the battery in my prius hybrid regens pretty well -- not as well as a
BEV, but not bad.  But... it fills up really quickly (like in 4 or 5 miles
of downhill) and then it's full.... so it's not the power that's limiting
it, but the energy.

Z


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Willie2 <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/13/2013 11:25 AM, EVDL Administrator wrote:
>
>> On 13 Nov 2013 at 3:33, brucedp5 wrote:
>>
>>  Conventional batteries take so long to charge that they cannot
>>> efficiently
>>> store braking energy.
>>>
>> Hold on there!  A lead-acid battery can be charged at thousands of amps if
>> it's below 80% SOC.
>>
>> To view it from another angle, a battery can usually charge as fast as it
>> can discharge.  I'm sure there are exceptions, but in my experience, most
>> drivers seldom decelerate dramatically faster than they accelerate.
>>
>> That said, supercaps have been shown to be useful in mitigating peak
>> currents on discharging, and maybe this would help too on charging.  But I
>> suspect that further battery refinement - and the extra cost of the caps -
>> will make this a moot point.
>>
>
> I also noticed the poor quality of the article also and intended to
> comment on it at the time.
>
> I guess he is thinking of not BEVs but hybrids with relatively small
> batteries.
>
> As far as I know, ALL BEVs with regen capture an acceptable amount of
> braking energy.  A Tesla S (warm with a not full battery) can regen at
> 60kw; that covers probably more than 90% of braking needs. I have no
> personal experience, but I suspect even the small battery in a Volt allows
> an acceptable job of regen.
>
>
>>
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