I have seen such claims before - it is not 200 miles at 50 MPH, it is *either* 200 miles range (at 20 MPH or so) *or* 50 MPH top speed (giving a max range in the ballpark of 40-60 miles). BTW, at a top speed of 50 MPH, it does not drive like any other car, in fact in my state you will probably receive tickets if you enter a Freeway if you cannot reach at least 55 MPH.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Nelson Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:01 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Temple & Oke's EV Conversion How-to's "With a range of over 200 miles and top speeds of 50 mph your electric car will drive just like any vehicle on the road, except- no gas!" Really? With only 20 batteries? And "only a few hundred dollars?" What a disservice to someone trying to decide whether to do a conversion. David D. Nelson Sent from MetroMail on Windows Phone On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:16 AM, brucedp5 <[email protected]> wrote: Electrifying Facts on Electric Vehicle Conversion - All You Need to Know http://www.inloughborough.com/report/000678/ AC Electric Car Conversion By Bill Temple [11/14/2013] You've decided to do your own AC electric car conversion. You have the choice of installing either DC or AC electric motors in your conversion car, however AC is definitely the way to go. The advantages far outweigh the one small disadvantage. AC motors are lighter for the power output; they come with motor controllers, and have regenerative braking installed in most models (more on this later). They do, however cost a bit more because of these benefits, this being the only disadvantage of AC over DC motors for your electric car conversion. What do you need to start? - Detailed plans on AC electric car conversion - A workspace- garage, shop or some similar place, or even your laneway. - Common tools available in most homes - A reliable helper for holding parts and lifting some heavy objects. You will first need a vehicle to do the conversion on; a good list of the greatest cars and trucks to use is available in the plans. We have done 3 AC electric car conversions now and feel that small trucks are best. We used an older model Toyota for our last conversion and it worked out very well. It is light and there is quite a bit of room to place batteries (you need 20 or so) in the frame or in the box of the truck. After locating the vehicle you want to use, you will have to remove all of the gas engine and exhaust parts. It really doesn't take long, and you have the option of purchasing a car without the engine at some wrecking yards. This saves a lot of time and expense for you. You can then start your ac electric-car conversion. The AC motor is attached directly to the transmission with a simple adaptor kit. Battery placement is probably the most difficult part of the project and the detailed plans show you many options available. It's important to balance the weight of the batteries with your carrying capacity. More batteries means longer range between charges however also reduces room for passengers or cargo. The choice is yours depending on your driving habits. After your AC electric car conversion is done and you take your first drive you won't be able to stop smiling, especially when you drive by a gas station and don't have to stop. With a range of over 200 miles and top speeds of 50 mph your electric car will drive just like any vehicle on the road, except- no gas! Did you know that gas prices are expected to rise to $7 per gallon by next year? Isn't it time you did something about this situation for you and your family? Let's get started. Learn AC electric car conversion is the greatest place to start to do your own conversion and start saving money and the environment by not using petrol in your new electric car. Our family has been living off the grid since last year, and loving every minute of it. Doing our first AC electric car conversion has really helped us tremendously, saving money and we don't produce any toxic fumes anymore either. Electric Car Plans By Bill Temple You've decided to build your own electric car and now you need reliable electric car plans. We've found some good plans that we will share with you to get you started. First, what do you need to begin? - Simple tools found in any household workshop- saws, drills, wrenches etc. - A place to work- shop, garage, barn or even outside is fine - Detailed electric car plans Before you get started you will need a vehicle to do the conversion with. I say conversion because any vehicle will work for this project, however some are better than others. Gas or diesel doesn't matter as you will be removing the engine anyways, and everything related to fuel and exhaust. Your new electric car will produce no fumes either. We think that's great. You will need a vehicle with a standard transmission though. Automatic transmissions just don't work with electric motors for cars. Don't worry; you won't have to learn how to drive a standard though if you don't know how. Your electric car will drive just like an automatic. Just put it in gear and drive. It's that easy, no shifting in town at all. When you pull up to the stop light for instance the electric motor just stops. It's all explained in detail in the electric car plans. Your new electric car will have great acceleration too. We were amazed at how fast it was off the line in town. Your electric car will be able to go 50 mph and have an effective range up to 200 miles on a single charge depending on your choice of vehicles and your driving habits. We kind of lean towards using small trucks now that we have done 3 conversions ourselves. Small-trucks like the older Toyota Tacoma (around 1995 or so) offer a lot of room for battery placement. They are light and strong too, a perfect combination for this project. Small cars work well too, however offer fewer options for battery placement. Our greatest range vehicle is actually our Toyota Corolla, well over 200 miles between charges. This is not a difficult project either although you will need a helper at times. Those extra hands when you are attaching the DC motor are needed. How much does it cost? You can build your own electric car for only a few hundred dollars (including the cost of the detailed plans). If you use the sources of free batteries and free DC motors found in the electric car plans you can keep the cost down to a very reasonable level. Imagine the first time you drive by a gas station while others are filling up. Did you know that gas is expected to reach $7 per gallon next year? Isn't it time you did your own electric car conversion? Let's get started. Electric Car Plans is the greatest place to start to do your own conversion and stop paying outrageous gas prices at the pumps; it really isn't that difficult and makes a great family project with detailed electric car plans. Our family has been living off the grid since last year, and loving every minute of it. We were excited to find electric car plans and get started on our own, saving money and petrol costs. Electric Truck Conversion By Les J Oke You've decided to do an electric truck conversion and now you need detailed plans to get you started. Doing the conversion is not that difficult if you follow these simple steps. Find a place to work- shop, garage etc. Get your tools ready, saws, cordless drill, wrenches etc. Locate a decent small truck to convert Get detailed electric truck conversion plans It is a good idea to use a small truck for this conversion because they are light and strong. Unlike small cars they also have lots of room for battery placement. Since the number of batteries determines your effective range this makes a small truck a good choice. We recently completed a conversion on a Toyota Tacoma and it worked great. Remember that you will need a standard transmission truck to start with. Automatic transmissions just don't work with electric motors. Don't worry though, if you only know how to drive an automatic, your electric truck conversion will drive just like an automatic. Just put it in gear and go. It's pretty simple and does it go... We were amazed at the acceleration which left a lot of people staring at us as we zipped between stop lights in town. This isn't a slow moving golf cart as some people seem to think. Your electric truck conversion will keep up with any vehicle in town and travel 50 mph on the highway. With a range of over 200 miles, as outlined in the detailed plans it will take you where you want to go, when you want to get there. The two main parts to an electric truck are batteries and a motor. We chose a large 11 inch DC motor for our conversion and this allows us to haul loads of even firewood with the truck. What impressed us most is that the plans even outlined sources of free deep cycle batteries that we could use in our truck. Since batteries are one of the largest expenses (you need 20 or so) this really helps keep the cost manageable - a big plus for the budget minded family. And isn't that why you are doing this conversion? To save money... You will save lots of money too on both fuel and repairs as the electric truck is much more reliable. For the cost of one repair bill with your present vehicle you could be driving an electric truck conversion. The first time you drive by a gas station you will know precisely what we mean. Did you know that gas is expected to rise to $7 per gallon by next year? Isn't it time you did your own conversion too. Let's get started. Electric Truck Conversion is the greatest place to start to do your own conversion and start saving money and the environment; you can do your own electric truck conversion too. Our family began living off the grid in 2001 and we have never looked back. Doing our own electric truck conversion has helped our family save money and gas, you will have the same great results. [(c) inloughborough.com] http://www.inloughborough.com/report/002400/ Electrifying Facts on Electric Vehicle Conversion - All You Need to Know 11/14/2013 - Right now, with the gas at prices that we have never seen before, many people are looking for ways to cut down on gas consumption ... 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