It's the result of what I call a dynamic blind spot. It's surprisingly common to find your motion and that of a ped or other vehicle combine so the hazard remains obscured behind an A pillar. It wasn't much of a problem until A pillars got so big. The only solution for an individual is to be aware of it and get used to getting up out of the seat to see what needs to be seen.
Chris On Dec 15, 2013 8:43 PM, "Mark Grasser" <[email protected]> wrote: > > To be honest I do not understand how a pedestrian stays behind the pillar > in > a turn. Is the legal way to turn in an intersection to get past the > pedestrian walkway and out into the intersection before turning? It sounds > to me like you are "short turning" the intersection. > > Mark Grasser > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Peri Hartman > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:35 PM > To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [EVDL] nissan leaf visibility issues > > Well, sooner or later when enough peds get killed, you can't sell a vehicle > that kills peds either :( > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Michael Ross > Sent: 15 December, 2013 4:19 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] nissan leaf visibility issues > > I suspect the thickness of the Leaf A pillar is significantly about > rollover > protection and weight as someone else mentioned. I am not sure you can > move > the front glass far forward of the driver and roll it far around to the > rear > without making it very stout. That little A & a half pillar on the Leaf > makes a useless window, but adds a lot of strength. > > I have worked with automotive styling (well, truck styling, but I know the > drill), the engineers get their marching orders after the styling guys have > their fantastic whacks at it. It goes like this: "Here is what it must > look > like, make it happen." The Leaf workups probably had better visibility, > but > the A pillar grew for practicalities sake. You can debate the visibility > part, but you can't sell it if it won't pass the rollover tests. > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Michael Ross wrote: > > > >> Right, this is not an EV problem per se. But since EVs are range > >> compromised, and efficiency is a selling point, the temptation is to > >> move the A pillars as with the Leaf. > >> > > > > I'd say this has a lot more to do with styling than aerodynamics. An > > A-pillar can be amazingly small if it is designed to be. The auto > companies > > prefer to make them out of the same sheet metal as the rest of the > > body, > to > > save cost. > > > > There is also a tendency to paint an inch or more of the edge of the > > glass, further reducing visibility. 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