On 01/03/2014 08:24 AM, Steve Clunn wrote:
Like most EV drivers on the list, my thoughts about selling
electricity from my battery pack has not been very positive.   Looking
at the numbers, a 100ah Lithium cell stores 300watts and if we said
3000 cycles is 900kw or $90.00 worth of Electricity at 10cents a kw.
So the storing of the electricity costs about twice what the
electricity costs.  If you wanted a kw it would cost me 30 cents (
this is not profit).  We add on another 10 cents for profit and now we
would need to sell our electricity for 40 cents a kw.  Is there ever a
time the power companies would buy it at this price?
A VERY good analysis, IMHO!

But overly optimistic, I believe. A practical cycle is more like 150-250 watt hours (watt HOURS). More realistic cycle life is 1000-2000, though it seems 4000 is possible. So, a $110-$120 cell will pass something like 500kwh (wk HOURS) during it's life. Only $50 worth of electricity is most places. Again, a VERY good way to look at it: your battery is likely to cost you at least twice the electricity you use. AND you would not likely be paid reasonably in a V2G situation.

Similar numbers for production EV batteries are obscure but I think they are not far from the chinese LFPs.
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