A few years ago we tested a Fresnel lens concentrating system for a client.
They didn't have their tracking right and burned a trench across their
circuit boards with the focused energy.  Focusing and concentrating are
really two different design problems where focusing require much better
tolerancing of everything. I have a solar oven to heat up my beans that has
flat sides - easily boils and chars food but requires very little effort to
focus.  The 400F system used curved mirrors that required precise
manufacture to be properly efficient without tracking.

Tracking is quite expensive, so you have to make a lot of power to get
payback.

You might think this concentrating solar stuff is a no-brainer, but it is
not all that easy in practice, the fact that the sun moves & where it moves
is a large complication when you are trying to focus it.

There is a start up called Semprius that has gotten 30% PV efficiency with
little concentrating lenses over individual semi conductor cells.  There
are a multitude of these on a panel.  I am not aware of anything with
better performance on the horizon.

The problem with solar thermal, efficient as it is, the energy is not much
use if you don't need hot water or air.  It takes a lot of family to get
much use of solar thermal.  The hardware for thermal energy is less
reliable and more complicated than electricity and solar generated
electricity. For instance, my wife and I, in our 1300sqft house cannot
justify a solar thermal system, instead we spent about 25$ insulating our
resistance heated tank and hot water piping.

The added complication, cost and potential for unreliability is likewise
difficult to justify for thermal in combination with PV.  You get some hot
water, but the savings add up very slowly, and you improve the efficiency
of the PV a bit.  If you run the numbers it is often better to simply put
up one more PV panel. This can be complicated by whether the topology of
the system supports adding only one panel and not a whole string and an
inverter upgrade.

Back to the Ford car, good panels in the roof, making 500W is not a
terrible idea and maybe also good marketing.  Just skip the carport
business.


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:

> If it's a student project, it can be kind of goofy and impractical. It
> should also a good learning experience (and fun). :-)
>
> The big fresnel lens is going to require that the car be parked precisely
> under the focal point. It also doesn't take into account that the sun
> moves. So...
>
> How about putting a motorized mirror on a pole? A camera looks for the
> car, spots its solar panel, and steers the mirror to direct the sun on it.
> Now you get more power.
>
> This also avoids burning a hole in mother-in-law's convertible top when
> she comes over for dinner, or setting fire to the cat that happens to walk
> across the driveway.
>
> Maybe it could even eke out a little more power at night, from the full
> moon or a street light.
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