On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Thos True <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yep, on the Leaf, the salesman will tell you to only charge it to 80%, not
> realizing that the factory parameters are already set to 20%@empty (0% on
> gauge) and 80% (100% on gauge), thereby having the newbie charging the car
> to about 70%!

The LEAF lets you use about 92% of the full capacity of the pack, a
lot more than 80%.

80% (long-life charge) is actually about 80% in true SOC. 100% is
actually about 95% in true SOC, and it appears that Nissan has been
squeezing a bit more voltage on the '13 LEAFs on a 100% charge than
the '11-12 LEAFs - around 4.11-4.13V where the '11-12 would top out
around 4.09-4.11V.

The LEAF will go into turtle mode when the lowest cell hits a resting
voltage of 3.0V - there's only a bit more than 3% left at that point.

The rumor is that Nissan wasn't seeing much of a difference in
real-life rate of capacity loss when comparing LEAFs who charge to 80%
vs 100%. Hard to say when Nissan is so tight lipped about real-life
rate of capacity loss and as far as I'm aware, no one has run any
controlled tests on the LEAF's battery. I suppose now that one can
easily get used modules off eBay someone might spend the $500 to test
a handful of modules under various conditions if they wanted.

Personally, the lack of regenerative braking above a 80% charge is
reason enough to stop charging at 80% unless you really need the extra
~14 miles of range a 100% charge gets you (on a new LEAF, anyway -
only good for about 10 extra miles now on my nearly 3-yo LEAF).

-Dave
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