The info that I shared here was what I gleaned from talking with one of
Nissan's engineers a little over 2 years ago. I have not taken the time to
do any real time testing, more of the seat of my pants kind of experiences.
Very difficult to quantify range vs charge level vs temperatures in our
real world driving. If it seems that I am not getting the range that I want
whether temperature or SOC related, I will generally modify my driving
habits to compensate.

-Tom


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM, David Rees <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Thos True <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yep, on the Leaf, the salesman will tell you to only charge it to 80%,
> not
> > realizing that the factory parameters are already set to 20%@empty (0%
> on
> > gauge) and 80% (100% on gauge), thereby having the newbie charging the
> car
> > to about 70%!
>
> The LEAF lets you use about 92% of the full capacity of the pack, a
> lot more than 80%.
>
> 80% (long-life charge) is actually about 80% in true SOC. 100% is
> actually about 95% in true SOC, and it appears that Nissan has been
> squeezing a bit more voltage on the '13 LEAFs on a 100% charge than
> the '11-12 LEAFs - around 4.11-4.13V where the '11-12 would top out
> around 4.09-4.11V.
>
> The LEAF will go into turtle mode when the lowest cell hits a resting
> voltage of 3.0V - there's only a bit more than 3% left at that point.
>
> The rumor is that Nissan wasn't seeing much of a difference in
> real-life rate of capacity loss when comparing LEAFs who charge to 80%
> vs 100%. Hard to say when Nissan is so tight lipped about real-life
> rate of capacity loss and as far as I'm aware, no one has run any
> controlled tests on the LEAF's battery. I suppose now that one can
> easily get used modules off eBay someone might spend the $500 to test
> a handful of modules under various conditions if they wanted.
>
> Personally, the lack of regenerative braking above a 80% charge is
> reason enough to stop charging at 80% unless you really need the extra
> ~14 miles of range a 100% charge gets you (on a new LEAF, anyway -
> only good for about 10 extra miles now on my nearly 3-yo LEAF).
>
> -Dave
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