"three conductor wire" - Do you mean 3-phase?  

Why do ordinary domestic AC mains cable reels heat up if used coiled, then?  MW


On 22 Feb 2014, at 17:26, Bill Dube wrote:

> AC, not DC powered. Transformer changes ~13 kv distribution voltage down to 
> 480 vac.
> 
> Cord reels ("coils") consist of three conductor wire with current flowing 
> equally in both directions, so there is no inductance associated with the 
> "coil". Thus no inductive heating from the AC.
> 
> On 2/22/2014 3:55 AM, Martin WINLOW wrote:
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I'm assuming the power must be DC... or otherwise wouldn't the coils get V 
>> hot?  Or is this what the transformer you mentioned deals with?
>> 
>> MW
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 17:53, Bill Dube wrote:
>> 
>>> Electric coal mining equipment is cord-connected. Even enormous draglines 
>>> ("steam" shovels on steroids) are typically cord connected with 13 kV 
>>> cables. It is a mature science. Coal mining equipment has been electric 
>>> powered since the early 1900's. Specialized cables, reels, transformers, 
>>> and equipment for the mining industry. Easily transferable technology to 
>>> agriculture.
>>> 
>>> They typically put a reel on the back of the mining machine that pays out 
>>> (or pulls in) the cable as needed. They have a "load center" transformer 
>>> that is moved around as the mining process proceeds.
>>> 
>>> Electric shuttle car for underground coal transport from working face:
>>> http://www.undergroundcoal.com.au/fundamentals/11_face.aspx
>>> 
>>> Nifty tutorial on cables for mining EVs:
>>> http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/mining/content/deratingfactors.html
>>> 
>>> Dragline cable:
>>> http://www.miningphoto.com/details/2140/dragline_working_in_background_removing_overburden_with_drill_rigs_drilling_blas
>>> 
>>> Bill Dube'
>>> (Used to work as an Electrical Inspection intern for the Mine Safety and 
>>> Health Administration, MSHA)

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