... and there weren't any virus, trojans, etc. What a glorious time! Just to be clear, for those who don't distinguish the different stages of the Internet, it really started back in the 1960s and later became the ARPANET but, at first, only available to a handful of universities.
The birthday, today, is for the launch of the first web server and the first opportunity for people to use a browser and the http protocol. Of course, that's how most people see the Internet. I think http was first used in the CERN project, so that scientists and other workers could more easily share documents. But the Internet was widely used beforehand with much less user friendly tools, like ftp (still extensively used) telnet, usenet, and others. I think Bruce knows this stuff better than I do :) Peri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of brucedp5 Sent: 12 March, 2014 5:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EVDL] Happy Birthday evdl & Internet, turned 25 today ... Why use the @ ? "Mostly because it seemed like a neat idea" The newswires announced it is the Internet's Birthday, 25 years old today. If you read the links I provided below on this, there is some question as to if today's date or 25 years is correct. Who knows at what point we can say the Internet was born? Old-timers can share their experiences from way back when the Internet was in its fetal stage (pre-web pages), where yes text could be sent back and forth, but when the Internet of today is compare to back then, a teen might say, "Naaa ... that's no good ... where is the pictures, sound, videos ..." Similarly, perhaps its like trying to determine when human writing was invented, where rock scratchings http://southwestbackcountry.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/thelehmancaves22.jpg charcoal drawings http://www.newyorker.com/images/2008/06/23/p465/080623_r17477_p465.jpg and inverted hand prints (spitting paint over the hand on a rock) http://i.usatoday.net/tech/_photos/2012/06/14/Spanish-cave-paintings-are-old est-in-the-world-0G1M3MHU-x-large.jpg ... were a form of writing ... So, if we run with today as being the Internet's birthday, we may as well also use the same day as the evdl's birthday, as after email chatting with the evdl creator, Clyde Visser, and also Chris Yoder who had an EV list before him (read below), the actual date of when the evdl was born is also a hard item to pin down. Today's evdl is the same yet enhanced with several archives that the search engine bots record our every thought for everyone to find. Which is one of the reasons I post many news items to the nabble archive. Back when I first joined the evdl around 1991, there really was much in the way of web pages, just email, ftp, newsgroups, and other items that are long gone. But just like today, I look forward to connecting to my EV compadres/comrades, sharing information, views, and more. . ____ ~/__|o\__ '@----- @'---(= Get Amp'd Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter Electric Vehicle List News brucedp.150m.com *Originator of the above ASCII art % Renewable Energy for your Electric Vehicle % (Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA) -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/12/14, Clyde Visser <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Creator Clyde Visser: what date did the evdl begin? Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 ... The date? I measure time these days by companies, not years. I think that I started the EV list back when I was first at Ameritec. So I'm thinking 91. I've got early archives on floppy somewhere. Back then the server was a DEC/VAX based box running LISTPROC. The interface was strictly via email. In those days BITNET was king, Compuserve was going strong, and email addresses had bangs "!" and pound signs "#". And my email client was a MSDOS based program called UUPC. Btw, mine wasn't the first EV list; I discovered a month after I started my list on SJSU that another existed. Ironically enough it was run by Chris Yoder at one of the Claremont Colleges that I would drive by on my daily commute. By that point in time, my list was larger and he was very willing to give me his list to merge into mine. Not sure when he started his list though. - ... http://www.linkedin.com/in/clydevisser http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp ... Amateur License - KD6GWN - VISSER, CLYDE R Expiration 03/12/2022 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.autos.karting/XghITD4mwGM dated 1993 to the alt.autos.karting newsgroup [links and evdl procedures are obsolete= do not use ... ] http://www.std.com/obi/Networking/ListServ/listserv.lists ... S Auto [email protected] [email protected] EV Electric Vehicle Discussion Clyde R. Visser, KD6GWN <[email protected]> The EV Electric Vehicle Discussion Mailing List is intended to provide a forum to discuss the current state of the art and future direction of electric vehicles. It is *not* intended to discuss either EV appropriateness or comparisons with other transportation primary drive modes such as the venerable internal combustion engine. Those "discussions" are best relegated to the appropriate usenet newsgroup ... -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/12/14, Yoder, R C. (Chris) <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: RE: Chris Yoder: What date did your EV list begin? Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 ... I don't recall the exact date. Yes, we did have 2 lists, and we merged them rather than try to keep 2 running ... - ... http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisyoder http://directory.caltech.edu/cgi-bin/search.cgi?uid=rcy http://www.its.caltech.edu/~rcy/ev/ http://www.evalbum.com/117 ... http://newday.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/12/happy-birthday-internet/ Happy Birthday World Wide Web! March 12th, 2014 I remember the first time I used it, in 1993. We huddled around a monochrome computer (1-color monitor, it was yellow) and my science teacher pulled a piece of paper from her fanny pack that had instructions for us to dial into a computer the next town over. Once connected, that computer dialed into another computer that connected us to NASA so we could read public information about space shuttle flights. It was amazing to see all that information slowly scroll by as lines of text on the screen. It looked like this: http://line-mode.cern.ch/www/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html Then, came the web, and the first web page: http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html And the first web browsers: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2013/04/twenty-years-free-open-web Then the world wide web became a part of our life. We dialed in in the late 90's by way of [dial-up ISP's like: ] Prodigy, CompuServe and AOL. But those services were less about the web and more about the service they provided: early email, chat and instant message. In the years to follow, AOL flooded our physical mail boxes with those floppy discs and CD's offering a free month of service for their dial up connection. Our modems slowly got faster until they reached a peak speed of 56Kbps ... [C 2012 Cable News Network] http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/happy-birthday-world-wide-web-turn-25-n 39571 Happy Birthday: World Wide Web to Turn 25 By Keith Wagstaff February 27th 2014 [image / Pew Research http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_09/213531/internetusegraph_9744d5 c5686021b7a25883161245066b.nbcnews-ux-520-480.jpg Bar chart - U.S. Internet usage 1995 to 2014 ] Before Berners-Lee and the release of Mosaic, the first popular Web browser, the Internet was a very different place. "If you weren't technologically sophisticated, you couldn't really use it, because you had to use all of these arcane tools and commands," Donna Hoffman, co-director of the Center for the Connected Consumer at George Washington University, told NBC News. The Web and Mosaic, she said, "opened up the world of the Internet to anybody who had a browser and a mouse." To be clear, the Internet existed before 1989. In-the-know people might connect through a bulletin board system (BBS) or, later, through an email or forum with a service like CompuServe, but the idea of pulling up a website was foreign. Berners-Lee, who received a knighthood for his work, changed that. He released his code to the world for free in 1990, turning the "Internet from a geeky data-transfer system embraced by specialists and a small number of enthusiasts into a mass-adopted technology," according to the Pew Research Center's "The Web at 25" report, released on Thursday. In 1993, Mosaic, the first popular Web browser, was born. Hoffman, then a business professor at Vanderbilt University, loaded it on her Unix-based workstation and immediately thought, "My God, this is going to change the world." "I turned my entire research career around to focus on it," she said. "At the time, people thought I was insane." She was, of course, right to get excited about the impact that the Web would have. Over the next two decades, the Internet grew at an amazing pace. Internet Use Pew Research Center Fun fact: In 1995, 42 percent of Americans had never heard of the Internet. Of the 14 percent of Americans who had Internet access, only 2 percent were using the top-of-line modems that reached the then-blazing speeds of 28.8 bytes per second. It would be hard for an 18-to-29-year-old to grasp that idea today, especially considering that 97 percent of them use the Internet. It turns out that most people think that the rise of the Internet has been a positive development. People like the Internet Pew Research Center In fact, today more Americans think it would be "hard or impossible" to give up the Internet (46 percent) than television (35 percent). Back in the mid-to-early '90s, Hoffman said, most big companies did not see this coming. They thought about the Internet as another avenue they could control to reach consumers, she said, like television or radio. They had no idea it would completely change how business in America was conducted. The same thing, Hoffman said, is happening now with "smart" devices like watches and refrigerators that talk to each other and the cloud. "I have that same tingling sense now about the 'Internet of things' that I did in the mid-90s about the Web," she said. "It's going to be revolutionary." ... [C nbcnews.com] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/digital-culture/happy-birthday-int ernet-you-need-a-bill-of-rights-says-web-inventor-tim-berners-lee/article174 50184/ Happy birthday Internet, you need a 'bill of rights' says Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee London - Reuters Mar. 12 2014 [image] Undated picture released Tuesday Dec. 30, 2003 of Tim Berners-Lee, dubbed the father of the World Wide Web. (AP) The inventor of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee, called on Wednesday for bill of rights to protect freedom of speech on the Internet and users' rights after leaks about government surveillance of online activity. Exactly 25 years since the London-born computer scientist invented the web, Berners-Lee said there was a need for a charter like England's historic Magna Carta to help guarantee fundamental principles online ... [C 2014 The Globe and Mail] http://whnt.com/2014/03/12/happy-birthday-internets/ Happy Birthday Internet! World Wide Web Turns 25 March 12, 2014 ... "The Web pages back then had that gray and black text and embedded images. There was no fancy layout; it was very simplistic," he said. "But it was powerful. I said, 'My God, this is it. This is what's going to define the next phase of my life.' It was a quite powerful, transformative concept." ... [video flash] [dated] http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/AheadoftheCurve/today-internets-40th-birthd ay/story?id=8945743 Is Today the Internet's 40th Birthday? Oct. 29, 2009 By KI MAE HEUSSNER ... While the actual date of the Internet's birthday is somewhat debated, many say that the Internet was born 40 years ago today at the University of California, Los Angeles, when a computer to computer message was sent for the first time from the UCLA campus to Stanford. At the time, Leonard Kleinrock and his colleagues were charged with developing the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (or ARPANET), a government-funded research project in global computer communications that eventually grew into the Internet. On Sept. 2, 1969, Kleinrock and his team succeeded in getting two computers to exchange data over a network for the first time, creating the first node of what we now know as the Internet. Some consider that to be the Internet's first moment of life. But Kleinrock considers his team's feat 40 years ago today to be "the first breath of life the Internet ever took." The message he intended to send to Stanford was "login" but Kleinrock was only able to type "lo" before the system crashed. On his second attempt, the message went through successfully. In honor of the occasion, Kleinrock and his colleagues are celebrating today with a day-long event featuring speakers and panels on UCLA's campus. Sept. 2 and Oct. 29 Both Considered Internet Birthdays It's hardly surprising that a system so complex has a hard-to-pin-down date of birth and many say either date suffices. "It's valid to consider either one because each involved transmission between computers," said Michael A. Banks, a technology writer and author of "On the Way to the Web: The Secret History of the Internet and Its Founders." Since its academic beginnings, the Internet has come a long way, revolutionizing nearly every aspect of human interaction. VIDEO: Research indicates that 56 percent of users connect to the internet wirelessly. null In honor of the occasion, here's a walk down memory lane and a look at some the Internet's most significant milestones. 1971 Ray Tomlinson, an engineer with BBN Technologies, sent the first network e-mail, choosing the @ symbol to separate the user's name from the host computer name. Why? "Mostly because it seemed like a neat idea," he has said. ARPANET Goes Global, Grows Into the Internet 1973 ARPANET goes global with two international nodes, one in the U.K. and one in Norway. 1979 CompuServe and The Source offer the first online services. Users paid an initial fee and then hourly fees to read news or financial information or read news or chat. These services marked a "really big step" in bringing consumers ? not just academics and government officials ? online, Banks said. Although the users couldn't communicate with users of other networks or access information hosted on other networks, they still formed some of the first vibrant emerging online communities. 1980 CB Simulator, the first online chat service, goes online. The service was hatched by CompuServe and was named after the Citizens' Band radio, an extremely popular radio service that let individuals communicate via radio over short distances. "Lives were changed immediately. People stayed online longer and later, fascinated with the ability to interact with several people at once," Banks writes in his book, "On the Way to the Web." "The online world and its denizens took on a new aura of reality, and the online experience grew far more entertaining and unpredictable." ... 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