Very good point Jerry. As I understand it, 30% of the OEM Auto Manufactures profit is in aftermarket parts. So with no pistons, valves, radiator hoses, alternators, sparkplugs, oil filters, etc to replace in the OEM EV, it is not very profitable after it is sold.
And which is more profitable, make a battery that will work within the extremes of hot and cold? Or take any old battery and make a system that requires heating and cooling and the parts that go along with it? Rush www.TucsonEV.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of jerry freedomev > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:16 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM sides with Auto Dealers> Tesla must use the > same set of rules > > hi Bruce and All, > > About 15 yrs ago? Big auto tried to cut out dealers, dropping many and > trying to buy the rest at dirt cheap prices because GM, Ford, etc was cutting > their dealerships. But Car dealers have a lot of state clout so most states made > laws restricting big auto from owning dealerships and replace them with their > own. > > Thus what Tesla is going up against. GM now they can't own their > dealers don't want Tesla to either. But Tesla never had dealers or even around > or tried to cheat anyone so unfair to punish them for others greed. > > You might also look into how they are buying up all the also junk > yards/ used parts suppliers to cut that market out forcing more to buy new > replacement parts. > > They make much of their money from after sales parts sales at about > 1,000-2,000% price markups. Thus a main reason they don't like EV's is few > parts sales as far fewer parts in an EV and even fewer with stress on them.. > > > > On Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:42 PM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter > <[email protected]> wrote: > > [ref original post > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-GM-sides- > with-Auto-Dealers-Tesla-must-use-the-same-set-of-rules-tp4668610.html > ] > > Like calling a plug-in-hybrid (aka ELR) an Electric Car (EV) so they can have > market and regulatory advantages? ... > No, GM would not do that, would they? (yes they would). If anyone should be > called on the rug for not following the rules, its GM. > > GM makes a compliance-EV that they have GM dealerships sell. ? How's that > going anyway ? (not that great, or not as good as it could be if their dealership > sales reps were on-board with selling EVs). And why aren't they? The GM Spark > is made in small quantities (just enough sold to meet annual carbon credit > quota), its sales-profit margin is low, sales-related paperwork is a pain, and the > EV has design limitations imposed by GM (it is not CHAdeMO L3 EVSE > compatible, and GM does not want to fund the installation of its own ccs L3 like > the way Nissan has already installed a CHAdeMO EVSE network). > > There must be a profit-related reason GM (and other automakers) do not want > to go the direct marketing route Tesla is doing. > I do not think GM is so unfamiliar with the direct marketing concept that they > could not do it. > Perhaps GM dislikes EVs so much, they are using the Auto Dealer's complains > as an excuse (follow the existing rules, or go home). > > I find it interesting that after all this time has past since the first Auto Dealer > battle to stop Tesla, there has been nary a peep out of GM about this, and now > this statement. IMO GM has likely been funding the Auto Dealers efforts to > fight Tesla. Perhaps GM now feels confident enough to take a public stance > (like they have Tesla on the ropes). Or perhaps its GM sees it will be on the > ropes when Tesla starts selling the ~$30k Tesla-E model EVs (which will be less > than a new Volt pih). > > IMO GM has just put their foot in it, and now the public knows BIG GM is > openly fighting/against Tesla. Which is rather sad. > GM 'can make a great EV' but their management won't. Instead they offer a pih > that though the drivers like, costs more than GM would like, has limited carbon > credits, and its non-EV sales are limited because of the limited quantity of > green HOV stickers, CA offers (remember not too long ago how GM tweaked > their pack capacity, and firmware to bump-up their e-mpg up enough to be able > to offer a CA HOV qualified Volt pih model. > > I am not worried about Tesla, the public wants their products and find a way to > get them and get them serviced despite all the back-room maneuvering, and > political deviousness going on. > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > - > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014, at 07:18 AM, tomw wrote: > > Well there's a surprise...GM is for something that limits a competitor. > > Like many they are for free market principles only when it is to their > > advantage. > - > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm/- A no graphics, no pop-ups email service > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > evdl.org/attachments/20140323/3eccaa58/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7236 - Release Date: 03/23/14 _______________________________________________________ Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting http://www.doteasy.com
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