It does seem ridiculous. But it has a positive side. The negative side it that it hurts Tesla's cash flow. I hope they've anticipated this in their financial modeling.
The positive side is that it means the ICE manufacturers will not be able to simply buy credits; they'll have to produce more EVs. Peri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Blackmond Sent: 10 April, 2014 9:26 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: ? Who is manipulating CARB against Tesla ? On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, brucedp5 wrote: > % 'Must recharge in 15min or less' is a ridiculous requirement that no > worthy-EV will achieve. Pack swapping is a work-around that not all > customers will want (memories of Better-Place's demise). % ICE vehicles have the ability to refuel in five or ten minutes. Since EVs are seen as a replacement for ICE vehicles, then they must have both the range and refueling times similar to ICE vehicles. This is the wrong perspective. EVs perform better than ICE vehicles in some ways. They should be used for the tasks where they excell. There is nothing wrong with using ICE vehicles for tasks where they are more appropriate than EVs. I do not use a cordless drill to break up a slab of concrete, but that drill is great for driving drywall screws (and many other things). Use the tool that is right for the job. Let me describe my experience. I leased a Honda EVPlus from 1997 through 2003. During that period of time I drove my ICE vehicle about 1500 miles per year. I paid for registration and insurance and maintenance of the ICE vehicle during this time. There were times that I needed to use it, but the overhead was quite expensive. Now I have a Nissan Leaf that I drive about 1000 miles per month (roughly 32,000 miles so far). I got rid of my ICE vehicle when I got the Leaf. I still drive about as many miles in an ICE vehicle as I did when I had my EVPlus, but now I rent a car instead. Budget Rent-A-Car has a deal where I can rent a car on weekends for just under $20/day as long as I pick it up at, and return it to, San Jose Airport. With unlimited milage, this is a great deal. I still have to pay for gas. What I didn't realize before I started renting a car is the peace of mind this brings on a long trip. I only use the rental car for long trips. If something should happen to the car (e.g. mechanical problem, accident, etc.), all I have to do is call the rental car company. I will get another car, and they will deal with the first one. If this were my car, I would have to arrange for repair, and either wait for it, or take the time to get back to the repair shop, possibly several days or weeks later. I will never take a long trip in my own car again. I know somebody who just leased a Fiat 500e. His lease includes access to a rental car. I don't remember the terms, but I do remember that it is a pretty good deal. I think this rental car model will evolve as EVs become more popular. EVs will replace ICE vehicles for tasks where EVs excell and ICE vehicles will continue to be used for tasks where they excell. How long it takes to recharge an EV is irrelevant in this model. Plug it in when you get home, unplug it before you leave. Never stop for gas (except in a rental car). Ed _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
