My packs are 16 (or possibly 17) cells of LFP.  My highest charge voltage
is 60VDC, so a half pack would be OK - always below 30V.  CMOS logic and
handle that which is convenient.

Should be interesting.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael Ross wrote:
>
>> I will probably be implementing a DC battery system for lighting and so on
>> so I can get op amp power from there.
>>
>
> I don't know about your lighting system, but in an EV, the pack is
> isolated from ground. The voltages you want to measure are "floating" and
> not ground referenced. You can't power the comparators from a grounded 12v
> system. You either needed a 12v DC/DC converter with isolated output, or a
> HVDC-to-low voltage power supply to power the comparators.
>
>
>  Or there is already a converter to
>> 12V on it. I would not use TTL if I can get around it - because it is
>> noise vulnerable. I would likely resort to some optos if noise gets
>> difficult.
>>
>
>  From a "do this task" POV, an op amp comparator is exactly the right
>> function.
>>
>
> Technically, the function needed is a window comparator. This uses two
> comparators. One detects a voltage above the reference, and the other
> detects a voltage below the reference. But you can get two (or more)
> comparators inside a single chip (LM393 for example).
>
> However, IC comparators are intended for voltages under 30 volts. It takes
> a lot of parts to use them to compare higher voltages.
>
>  If the difference between the two halves is too great then it warns.
>> if the difference is intermittent then the  indication stops. I think
>> I may like this better than a slowly increasing brightness
>>
>
> If you want a hard "digital" on/off indication, use the LED in an
> optocoupler in place of the red LED in the Batt-Bridge. Use the output of
> the optocoupler to switch some "digital" device, like logic gate or relay.
> Or, there are optocoupler with built-in hard-switching digital outputs that
> could directly switch something on/off.
>
> But in any case... start by precisely defining the problem you wish to
> solve *without* assuming a solution. Exactly what must the output do? Work
> backwards from there.
>
> --
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> And if you're not flexible, you'll pound your head against the wall
> and you won't see a different solution to a problem you're trying
> to solve. -- Jeff Bezos
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