OK I can buy that.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Cor van de Water <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael,
> The reports about the Prius being a loss-leader or no-margin for Toyota
> may have come from the early years, the Classic Prius did not make
> enough money to completely get return on investment, but in the year of
> the introduction of the second generation (2004) Toyota publicly stated
> that they had achieved break-even point for the Prius, even while that
> was still doubted by some domestic manufacturers - I remember a report
> from GM stating that their engineers could not figure out how Toyota
> could make the Prius - it was too complex and cost was estimated to be
> too high to ever make a profit, while Toyota had already done that. Says
> more about GM, I guess.
>
> Toyota would have never made the Prius a sub-brand with different
> vehicle lines if it was not successful and contributing to their profit.
>
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
> Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Michael Ross
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:36 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] free?
>
> Not sure about the Leaf, but a number of OEM EVs are loss leaders.  So
> yes,
> there is some free-ness.  As I understand it even Prius are a no margin
> proposition for Toyota.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Electric Blue auto convertions <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Nothing is free, nothing, you always have to pay, or you will be
> charged
> > later
> > . Look at Nissan, free charging?? you have the buy the but ugly car in
> the
> > first place , how much does that cost?? then they give you something
> > Free??  don't kid your self. Thjats like a rebate,    a company making
> a
> > big thing out of giving some of your own money back for an ov er
> priced
> > thing
> > --------------
>
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