So what BMS are people using with the batteries you are selling and how much 
does that add to the cost?  With your strong opinions about having to use a BMS 
I am surprised you are willing to sell the modules without an appropriate BMS 
as part of the deal.  Are you providing any warranty or after sale support?  It 
seems as if you are using lack of BMS and warranty support as a negative to the 
Chinese cells, yet wiling to let people walk right down the same path as long 
as they buy what you have to offer.
I hope to buy lithium for my truck some day and feel that even with their flaws 
the Chinese batteries are at least a known commodity at this time.  Buying raw 
cells meant for a Leaf or a Volt without the hardware or firmware they were 
designed to be used with sounds a little sketchy to me, if for nothing else, 
just for the lack of expertise available.  I remember how some of the first 
people to try the Chinese cells got burned back in the day :)  Now at least 
there is no lack of opinions about how to use them properly and plenty of real 
success stories.  
I remember David Nelson bringing his TS cells to my house to work on them 
together before he stuffed them into his Gizmo several years ago and I see that 
for his application, his cells and approach to maintaining them has worked out 
well.  

damon

> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:38:33 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] self-discharge of CALB 180Ah LiFePO4 cells
> 
> BMS is very important to the life of any Li-ion cells. Is there a production
> car not using BMS?. Bottom balance W/O BMS is a disaster waiting to come
> true. I didn't mention the difference in costs of cells like CALB and others
> compared to the NEW (not from wrecks) Leaf cells I sell. How about 48
> modules = 24kw for $4800? Try to beat that with CALB, etc.
> 
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