Actually I can see developing an automatic hands-free H2 fueling apparatus. It wouldn't be simple, requiring multiple sensors and fail-safes, but it could be done. Not sure it makes sense if FCV range allows a once-a-week fill-up at the neighborhood station.
I'm wondering if your between-the-lines reading of the newswires is more pertinent. For whatever reason, some manufacturers are highly resistant to climbing on the EV bandwagon. (The fact that their EVs are pretty good in spite of their reluctance says something about the ease of EV development.) Talking up FCVs is a way to tell another story. And to sell more ICEs in the meantime. Chris On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:16 AM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > IMO ... > > Since lately I have so much time on my hands (waiting in hospital waiting > rooms to be seen), and the newswires with less EV and more h2 items than in > the past, it makes me think of the strengths and weaknesses of each > vehicle, > but boiled down to a non-technical level (what the common person feels who > has not-a-clue of all the technical pros and cons of either). > > We have all seen how the automakers are touting the semi-autonomous modes > the new vehicles now have (self parking, sleep alert, etc.), like it is > preview to what I have occasionally posted of the vehicles having full > autonomous abilities: > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Renault-Hints-at-2016-Autonomous-Leaf-EV-tp4668014.html > EVLN: Renault Hints at 2016 Autonomous Leaf EV > Feb 18, 2014 > > > http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/05/the-87-billion-robot-car-industrial-complex/371242/ > The $87 Billion Robot-Car Market > Self-driving cars might be almost 10 percent of the automotive market in a > decade and a half. > May 20 2014 > > Some evdl members have posted their dislike/disdain for an autonomous > driving mode, like it is the end of driving as we know it. However, there > could be a benefit that would help sell plugins. > > Lets also look (simplistically) at how energy is put back in either a > plugin > or a h2 fcv. Currently both require a human. The fcv needs a human to > connect the high pressure hose that would pump the chemical-energy into the > fcv. And one of the ways to recharge a plugin is to have a human plug-in > the > electrical connection to transfer the power back into the pack. > > But a plugin can also have the option to use wireless/inductive recharging. > From what I recall, this has developed to a 5kw level for both home and > public use: > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/USU-5kW-90-efficient-10-inch-air-gap-wireless-power-transfer-td3666654.html > USU 5kW 90% efficient 10-inch air gap wireless power transfer > Jul 13, 2011 > ... > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6342812&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6342812 > > The 5kw level-2 charging would be good enough to recharge 100 mile EVs that > charge during the shorter time window off-peak hours utilities offer a > discount on. > > I foresee EVs getting to a point to where the driver could get out, the > plugin would park itself, and do its own wireless recharging at the > assigned > time (all automatic, the driver does not have to think). > > fcvs do not have this non-human/hands-free option. Thus, this would be a > selling point for higher end plugins (it does it all be itself, I do not > have-to-remember to plug-it-in, etc.). > > While a few automakers have thrown against EVs by backing fcvs (with > $upport > from Oil companies that would chemical-fuel them), fcvs have no hands-free > refueling solution. > > Chock one up for plugins over fcvs ... > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/How-I-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-autonomous-driving-wireless-charging-tp4669573.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140521/eccdf98d/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
