The Nissan dealership here is including the Leaf in their normal Nissan radio ads in Denver -- overblown announcer voice touts the big 4wd SUV, the sporty coupe, the electric leaf, all in the same ad. And they claim $99/month lease for it too (Not sure what that turns into in the real world, but that's what they're advertising at least).
Z On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter via EV < [email protected]> wrote: > According to > https://www.google.com/#q=nissan+leaf+profitable > news items says the Leaf EV has been profitable since the end of 2013. > But remember their numbers might be including all sales, and in some > parts of the world the price of the Leaf is not as low as in other areas > (like in U.S. states that have regs requiring EV sales). > > From what I have lightly read in the forums, here in the SF, CA bay > area, the amount of profit-taking (sales types jacking up the price) > varies on where you are. Leaf prices can be especially high near > affluent areas where the rich do not want to hunt for a better price. > So, sales types & dealerships are making lots of profit on the Leaf EV. > > An EV history note: the first production Leaf to come to the SF bay area > was one of those 'buy it at the lower price' dealerships, but 'live and > get service elsewhere' purchases (a wise/frugal approach). The driver > used the mynissanleaf.com forum to know that the SF north bay Novato > dealership had the best purchase deal. Then Nissan used that as a media > EVent when the owner drove their Leaf south to their SF Peninsula > residence. > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/1st-Leaf-EV-being-delivered-to-Redwood-City-CA-customer-td3078469.html > > The i-Miev is a good EV with sound engineering behind it (sadly, it was > designed for the average person, not my my type of > normal-size>big+tall). A couple of iMiev EVs were tricked out to race up > Pikes Peak. In fact, even in an accident at that race, the iMiev EVs did > well > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=iMiev+%22Pikes+Peak%22&days=0 > > But you have to know there is a major reason the iMiev cost's less> > their pack is smaller (meaning less range for lead foots, or faster > recharging for charging nuts like me). As has been posted, actual iMiev > drivers can quote their real-life iMiev range. And you can ask in one of > their forums http://myimiev.com > > ... > Which brings up a sore point for me. The EPA mileage rating missed when > rating plugins because ice are not that concerned with outside weather > temperatures> what is the range at cold temperatures (like during PA > winters) > http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evsbs.shtml#small-cars > > So, instead of the old-school city/highway ratings, I propose it would > be better to be like: > % of reduction in range in freezing temperatures / city speeds > (stop-n-go)./ highway speeds (@a constant 65mph) > > Having that rating type of rating would be much more helpful to the > newbie driver> they would know what to expect depending on where they > live and drive. > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014, at 06:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > > At the time I bought my Leaf, the i-miev was only slightly cheaper (once > > you > > factored-in quick charge and maybe something else - I can't remember). I > > thought given roughly the same price that since the Leaf could carry 5 > > passengers, had a bit more range, and a bit more torque, it was the > > better > > deal. > > > > Now Mitsubishi has dropped the price dramatically. It sounds very > > attractive to me. > > > > One big question - what is the real "real world" range. I get 50-55 > > miles > > in winter with my 2011 Leaf. Can the mitsi beat that? > - > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140523/625afdfc/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
