On 1 Aug 2014 at 13:17, Ben Goren via EV wrote:

> it probably also makes sense to get an air conditioner that runs [on]
> the 12V system so it, too, can run when the car is plugged [in] ... 

I'm not so sure.  I've read that a typical automotive aircon moves around 
25000 to 30000 btu/hr.  That can take a fair bit of power and energy.

For example, I just found (online) a 24500 btu/hr LG room aircon that uses 
12.7 amps at 230 volts (2.9kW assuming unity power factor).  A comparably 
efficient unit running on 12.7 volts would require 230 amps.  That's a 
pretty sizable long-term load for your 12v system.

To look at it another way, you'd need twelve fully charged 90ah lithium 
cells to run that aircon for an hour.  Even at 50% duty cycle, you'd still 
need eight 60ah cells.

The energy usage isn't so much of a problem if you're just talking about 
cooling the car while it's parked and charging, though don't forget that any 
power the aircon uses isn't available for charging.  However, you'd still 
have to have a pretty robust 12v system to power it.  

I think you'd be better off with an aircon powered by the main traction pack 
voltage.  At least the current required would be more manageable.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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