My Docs all have email. Be sure to tell him about the World Record attempt...
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:37 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed. I had a couple of VA appointments which are moving me closer to my > thyroid surgery I hope to arrange to have happen after the Silicon Valley > EAA Chapter EVent > http://eaasv.org > > While I doing my usual EVangel shtick of mentioning my efforts to promote > EVs, I do not always get a taker on the topic. But I did that day. > > It turns out the Leaf EV I saw parked in the EV parking lot, that I pointed > out to passerby's ('Hey, look it is an electric car) was owned by the Dr. I > had an appointment with that day. > > I found out the Dr.'s Leaf EV lease will be ending soon, and while he likes > his Leaf, it is not as good a fit as he would want. He mentioned his > interest in the Kia EV > http://www.kia.com/us/en/vehicle/soul-ev/2015/experience > But that is coming and not available right now. > > After some off the cuff discussion, he wants an EV with more room for his > passengers and medium sized dog (something larger than a Leaf). He likes to > drive from the SF Peninsula over the Santa Cruz Mountains to the Pacific > coast and enjoy Half Moon bay (he likes to let his dog enjoy the beaches). > > But he mentioned that he has range angst when going up to the city (SF). > After some discussion of what EVs are available, I was able to gather how > much experience he has with charging (this is usually a > newbie/inexperienced > mistake: to gather info on all the EVs out there rather than first looking > at what their real driving needs are, and what things they need to learn > more about). > > I asked if he had used the level-3 charging his Leaf has. He said no he > only > charges at home off 240VAC. He also did not know of plugshare.com (which > shows all chargers, unlike charger brand specific sites/apps that only show > their brand). > > While I was enjoying the EV conversation, he was aware of the time he was > using to yak EVs, and kept apologizing for using that time. I could see I > wasn't going to be given the time it took to inform him of the plugshare > app > (he is into apps) that would help him learn of all the public charging > (EVSE) out there > > http://www.plugshare.com/?latitude=37.775024&longitude=-122.419416&spanLat=1.361179&spanLng=2.644958 > So, instead, I encouraged him to come to the Silicon Valley EAA EVent on > the 3rd Sat of Sept. but it did not cause an interest reaction. > > When I mentioned that all the spots in the EVent visitor parking lot had > already been paid for by the EAA Chapter, and that the Chapter would be > paying for the EV charging at the EVent held at De Anza > http://goo.gl/maps/SgB8iCollege, that got a little more attention. > > However, at the end of my appointment with one more last effort to remind > him of the EVent (people today are pre-programmed to hear things three > times > before they will remember), it came clear that the EV he is leasing is of > the lower cost trims that only has the half-powered 3kW on-board level-2 > (L2) charger. > > I knew this after I had told him that the Leaf EV could charge off 240VAC > in > only 3 hours. That peaked his attention as a fact he did not know (yup, the > dealership leased him a Leaf with the cheaper on-board charger, and did not > give all the facts he really needed to know). To bad I wasn't given the > time, I really could have helped that Leaf driving Dr. > > > Afterward that got me thinking of what EV he could transition to that would > have more room and would offer L3 for the times he occasionally wants to go > farther. > > The Dr. said he was not interested in a Tesla-X > http://www.plugincars.com/tesla-model-x > as it was too expensive as well as not that much bigger > > The Dr. had mentioned other EVs like what he had heard of (VW > http://recombu.com/cars/reviews/vw-e-golf-review > > http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-vw-e-golf-20140530-story.html > , Audi > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_e-tron#A3_e-tron > , etc. > http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/class/class-B > > http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Vehicles/2014/i3/BMWi3/ > ) but he was leery of having to go to one of their dealerships and deal > with another aggressive/uninformed/sales type. > > I let him know of the different L3 charging types used, and that his Leaf > used the more available L3 (CHAdeMO, 30+ in the SF Bay area alone > > http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=+94080&filtered=true&fuel=ELEC&owner=all&payment=all&ev_dc_fast=true&radius=true&radius_miles=10 > L3 near SF > > > http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=94303&filtered=true&fuel=ELEC&owner=all&payment=all&ev_dc_fast=true&radius=true&radius_miles=7 > L3 on the SF Peninsula > ), and that the European EVs used L3 (combo) was currently far few in > number (4 in N. CA) > http://www.plugshare.com/?location=8428 > Belmont, CA > > http://www.plugshare.com/?location=51792 > Mt View > > http://www.plugshare.com/?location=10076 > Benicia > > http://www.plugshare.com/?location=44998 > Sacramento > > Since he liked his Leaf, it was plain that Nissan's env-200 e-Van > > http://cleantechnica.com/2014/06/10/sales-nissan-e-nv200-electric-van-begin-october/ > > > http://transportevolved.com/2014/05/06/nissan-e-nv200-electric-van-e-nv200-evalia-electric-minivan-enter-production/ > may be a better fit for him. And its availability is just around the > corner. > > Another EV item I not get to inform the Dr. of was the different EVSE > brands > and their use-fee rates > http://www.blinknetwork.com/chargers-commercial-dc-fast.html > Blink (owned by ccg) > > https://www.blinknetwork.com/membership.html#page=1 > > http://www.nrgevgo.com/san-francisco-bay-area/ > eVgo (owned by nrg) > > http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf/charging-range/charging/ > Nissan's free charging program > > > Well, I hope he comes to the eaasv.org EVent so I can help him. That is > what > I look forward to doing for free at each year's show (helping the public > like a good EVangle should). > > > > > For all EVLN posts use: > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=evln&sort=date > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > ... > http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256358 > Origin of "Is it bigger than a breadbox?" > ... > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shtick > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVangel-About-e-Dr-seeks-larger-family-EV-bigger-than-a-bread-box-tp4670985.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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