Hi Ben and All,
What a needlessly critical post and certainly not for
advancing EV's.
It's a robot. Not that different than what A Better Place
used. It easily can be programed to do other makes with bottom loading battery
packs if needed. Why would you assume differently? You make a lot of
unfounded assumptions.
Apparently you assume a battery swap system is going to appear
nationwide all at once or shouldn't be done. Near everything starts with 1,
no?
You assume this is suppose to be practical when it's actually
for massive EV tax credits it can sell and to show it works getting the same
ones Foolcells cars are getting.
Your battery getting lost, thieves and cost is another batch
of red herrings. In stations you'll most likely just rent your battery pack
based on mileage, not use your own pack. But each pack has ID so unlikely to
get lost or for long if it did as the computer checks each one each time it's
changed. Why do you think otherwise?
If thieving is bad, why do Leaf, Volt's packs not get stolen?
They all use the same bottom system, No?
Plus stealing a 600-2,000lb battery pack isn't easy without
serious equipment might get noticed. So why you singling Tesla out or even
bringing this non problem up?
What $30K packs? First likely they cost under $20k for the
largest and used, stolen worth far less on the used market and far, far less on
the black market.
Jerry Dycus
On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:36 AM, Ben Goren via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:25 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> First Tesla Battery Swap Station Online Soon
I gotta give Tesla props for the fantastic engineering feat they've pulled off
with this one, but I just don't see it being practical.
First, it only makes sense if it's a reasonably universal design. You don't
need to take your Ford car only to Ford gas stations, and your Honda car only
to Honda gas stations, and so on. And we're a loooooooong way from the kind of
standardization on battery pack design for a universal battery swap station.
Hell, we don't even know for sure yet that any other manufacturer is even going
to be interested in it as a possibility.
And then...well aside from the oft-cited concerns of getting somebody else's
possibly mistreated battery (which could be solved by basing bank account
credit and debits based on the actual capacity of the battery), there's a
bigger concern. If the Tesla battery station can change your battery in two
minutes, what's to stop car parts thieves from doing the same? Somebody siphons
the gas out of your tank and it sucks, but it's hardly the end of the world.
Somebody steals $30,000 worth of batteries from your car and turns it into an
oversized shopping cart, you've got a wee bit of a problem.
Yes, of course; Tesla will have some sort of security in place to prevent that
kind of thievery. But people still hack ATMs despite <i>their</i> security, and
banks have been at this sort of thing a lot longer than Tesla has.
So, again, great job with the engineering...but, thanks, but no thanks.
b&
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