> The more I think about it, the more I think that the grid's days are
numbered.
> No, not that it'll go away entirely -- at least, not for a lifetime or
more.

Exactly the opposite.  First, back east here, 90% of homes cannot do solar
because of shade.  And the value of shade in the summer lowering the cost
of AC is almost as valuable as solar panels on that same area.

No, the grid will always be here, its just that its funciton will evolve
to meet the two-way distribution of power everywhere.  Nothing can beat
the value of moving power around over the cost of storing it (generally)
though on site storage for PEAK instantaneous currents will be needed.
This is several minutes of capacity not whole days of storage.

The savings will come in having to use less copper over long distances.
The grid is currently built like a tree with a huge massive trunk thinning
out to the leaves.  The future grid will be more like English Ivy growing
everywhere supporting more leaves than a tree but with no vine larger that
a pencil.

Bob, Wb4aPR

But, rather, that, in ten to twenty years, people will be as comfortable
not having a grid connection as they are today not having a landline
telephone.

Right now, we're about where we were when the Motorola brick mobile phone
came out...a few people had already had ludicrously expensive car phones,
and the brick was only "portable" in the same sense that a Mac Classic
was...but, if circumstances worked out and you had the money, you could do
away with an AT&T phone entirely -- even if not many actually did unless
they were far enough from civilization that AT&T wouldn't run a line out
to you.

Today, of course, even schoolchildren have their own smartphones, and most
Millennials can't imagine why they'd possibly want a landline. For that
matter, Millennials don't even use voicemail or email -- mostly just text
and chat, and not even that much voice calling.

If the power companies want to prolong their relevance and position
themselves as best as possible for a post-grid world, they're going to
have to lead the way on things like V2G. A great way to start would be
subsidies for EVs in exchange for V2G rights. They could do the same with
plain old fixed battery banks. The power company could retain ownership of
the batteries in exchange for reduced rates and a guarantee of
uninterrupted service in the case of an outage. Or, if you want to own
your batteries yourself, the utility could provide a smart meter that
advertised both the amount they're going to charge you for usage and how
much they're willing to pay for backfeed, and you can provide similar
information to the meter. Program your local controller with variables
such as the current charge in your batteries and your anticipated usage,
and it adjusts the prices it advertises accordingly. You naturally wind up
buying power when cheap and selling it when expensive, and the ut  ility
does likewise, nicely leveling out both grid load and electricity prices
at the same time.

Instead, of course, the utilities are dead set against change...just like
the landline phone companies that fought number portability, the utilities
are determined to penalize those who fail to use electricity in the way
the utilities are used to. Solar producers, whom they should see as their
best customers, are their prime target...which just hastens the demise of
the grid. Just as people would rather put up with the hassle of getting a
new number than continue to do business with a company that would be
dickish about letting them leave, so, too, are people going to prefer the
expense and initial inconvenience of going to an off-grid battery solution
to dealing with Ma Bell in an electrician's uniform.

Cheers,

b&
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