Oops, replys to list go direct to Rod (only), hmm. OK, I try again:
> From: hoegb...@hotmail.com > To: rodho...@ameritech.net > Subject: RE: [EVDL] IR cameras - energy tool > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:02:16 +0100 > > There is at least 3 or more make/models out there in the "cheap" range, > > Seek Thermal: > this was $200 usd a short while a go, (but now it seems a bit higher priced) > and there is a very new "XR" model now: > http://obtain.thermal.com/category-s/1818.htm > I can just guess that they did run in to ramp-up problem at that low prices > before, now at 300 they should do good profit :-) > > FLIR: > A iphone back-cover, that also have a built in battery. > Compared to the Seek it has a crappy resulution (80*60pixl) , that is if we > only speak of "LWIR-pixels".., but they do a very good overlay together with > an extra normal vga camera, that software then put together, give us the > "edges" on top of the blobby thermal image/movies, so the result is enhanced > a lot, really nice actually! Also less of visible noise than the SeekThermal. > And might have a more uniform measurement over the full screen, (Some say > Seek did have some problem with that, maybe the > shutter-calibration..something.. As it was like several degrees difference > from top of the image compared to lower part of the sensor/image. Strange > error.. ) > > But the thermal range of FLIR One seems very limited! only 0-100 degrees, I > dont know if it is just a software problem to fix that later for a more > usefull "EV-range" for us. Also it is limited to just a very few of i-tings, > may be iphone 5 only, I dont know if it is hackable (angle-grinder.. :-) for > ipads and so on.. Also it is a bit more expensive than SeekTermal. (For > RaspberryPi-guys the module can be bought also, for more info google: > "lepton +LWIR" > > http://www.flir.com/cores/content/?id=66257 > That is the Module-page for lepton, > > (FLIR of course have a lot more modules for OEM:s and also have ready made > products, I like the FLIR E8 camera, and stuff like that class and up are *a > lot* more expensive. Lepton on the web (module only), is now about 200 usd . > ( http://www.pureengineering.com/projects/lepton ) But if you have an iphone > 5 and think you will have that phone for X more years it might be a good idea > to buy that complete "FlirOne"-product that is ready and the VGA-overlay that > works good, but I would choose the SeekThermal to be compatible with Android > stuff in the longer run. And to get the more useful winter outdoor > temp-range. But is seems like it is harder to see the smaller diffs in > temperatures with the SeekThermal compared to FlirOne, I guess that might be > fixed by a software update later, or.. the noise in SeekThermal might be to > bad for a more narrow range) > > > here is a Comparison between SeekThermal & FlirOne: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cr8oZck5m8 > Here he also shows an "add on" lens (for a laser cutter) that seems to work > very good as a "macro lens" here, useful for PCB-thermal images (6m30s) > > > And there is also "Therm-app": > this is the next more expensive in the mobi-LWIR-camera segment, > 384 x 288 pixels Give nice result, but 1600 usd... > Therm-app have a *much* better IR-resolution than FlirOne, > and it also looks(to me) a lot better than SeekThermal. > A Side by side video here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvVJE-qLhw > But very pricy for home-use. > http://therm-app.com/product/therm-app-device/ > > > /John > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 11:09:00 -0800 >> To: ev@lists.evdl.org >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] IR cameras - energy tool >> From: ev@lists.evdl.org >> >> What brand and model number were you using? I have one at work they bought >> for $15,000 about 12 years ago, >> but the software is not compatible with newer computers, so it's time for an >> upgrade. >> Thank Rod >> >> >> On Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:51 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV >> <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you own an iPhone (or probably other smart phones too) you can get a >> 'caddy' that turns your phone into a TI camera. Might be a cheaper/more >> convenient way of doing this as the dedicated cameras are, as you say, quite >> exy! Have a look on eBay etc. MW >> >> >> >> On 24 Jan 2015, at 16:12, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >>> I borrowed an IR camera to look around the house. Its amazing waht these >>> $400 cameras can see. In my old house, I can see vertical columns in the >>> walls where the blown in insulation never reached. >>> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
