Thanks Jerry and Zeke

The D&D motor I purchased (now twice) was built for low speed torque
applications,40% more torque than a stock motor.  Mike has advised me they
have customers that use these on carts to pull large boats out of launches,
etc.  It's massively powerful for a golf cart.  It is a series wound motor
and I replaced the shunt controller with the axe 7245. I don't have any
metering on the controller other than I can hook up via serial via laptop
to log throttle, volt and amp output and controller temps.  I could limit
output but Mike advised it should be set at 100%.  The motor is actually
doing a lot less work this year as I changed out the blower skegs for 4
small pneumatic wheels so it rolls much easily down the road. I'm not sure
I can bench break in the motor with 12v as one end of the motor is held by
a bearing on the golf cart transmission, it's a female spline.  As
mentioned it's been working flawlessly for 2 years without little heat. I
used to check it regularly with my hand for temps, barely would get hot.
Now the "H" rated insulation is melting!

Thank you!!!


On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Zeke Yewdall <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do you have any metering of motor current?  I'm not familiar with how the
> AXE controller works with a shunt motor as I've only used them with series
> motors, but I imagine that if you are at low throttle, the motor current
> could actually be very high, while the battery current is low.
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Dan Baker via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks
>>
>> I'm hoping someone can help me with my EV.  My snowpig (
>> http://www.evalbum.com/4544 ) has suffered two drive motor failures in
>> the
>> past two weeks!  I purchased a D&D 170-04-01 8hp torque motor two years
>> ago
>> to beef up my cart that I use to clear our dirt road for myself and
>> our neighbors.   It had ran flawlessly till now. My cart has been the
>> first
>> line of defense in keeping our road passable and this winter has been
>> brutal but not much different than the others we have had.  A couple weeks
>> ago I noted some smell from the motor and then a sudden loss in power.
>> Upon dis assembly, I found heat damage, notably 2 of the brush springs had
>> melted.  No idea if the brush springs were the cause of the heat or the
>> victims of it.  All my connections were tight and no heat damage could be
>> found at the batteries, controller or motor terminals.  So I called Mike
>> and Jeff at D&D up, they were very helpful and I ordered a replacement,
>> which is terribly expensive by the time this 61lb brute gets to my door
>> with shipping.  I verified my alltrax 7245 controller's programming and
>> found that the turbo option was set, a field weakening option that gets a
>> small increase in speed.  My snowpig rarely sees full throttle as it
>> trundles along clearing snow, the front MARS ME-1003 doing most of the
>> work
>> running the blower. I verified all the rest of the options as per Mike's
>> instructions and put the cart back together.
>> Well I had to travel for work this week and left the snowpig for my father
>> to operate.  We had two storms, the first one he had no issue but on the
>> second it failed again!  Upon inspecting I found the resting pack voltage
>> was 50 volts in -6c weather (he had to abandon it on the side of the
>> road).  Upon dissection of the second motor I found one brush completely
>> torn from the holder, it's metal casing in shards and lots of heat damage
>> again!
>>
>> Was the second motor a dud?  What else could be the cause? I'm not looking
>> for blame, just trying to keep it from happening again.  I have to once
>> again go away next week and we will likely have yet another dump of snow.
>> I'm going to try and make a motor of the two but I'm dismayed this may
>> happen again ;-(  If I get a motor functioning again, I'm going to hook a
>> laptop to the AXE controller.  and log a run but there isn't a lot of snow
>> left to clear as it has become rock hard with freezing rain so the blower
>> and cart won't see much load.
>>
>> Any help or ideas around keeping my pig running and our road passable
>> would
>> be much appreciated!
>>
>> Thank you
>> Dan
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