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On 12 Mar 2015, at 09:51, lektwik via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > What a bunch of sniveling babies these Tesla owners are. If you want a > newer model, sell your old one and move on! > > Narcissistic snowflake much? > > The butthurt. It burns. > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:14 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> http://www.montereyherald.com/business/20150304/tesla-anger-recent-model-s-buyers-cry-foul-over-new-features >> Tesla anger: Recent Model S buyers cry foul over new features >> By Dana Hull 03/04/15 >> >> [image >> >> http://www.montereyherald.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=zz&Date=20150304&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=304009949&Ref=PH&Item=1&NewTbl=1 >> HAWTHORNE CA - OCTOBER 09: Tesla owners look at the new interior of a Tesla >> "D" model electric sedan after Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla, unveiled the dual >> engine chassis, a faster and all-wheel-drive version of the Model S >> electric >> sedan, at the Hawthorne Airport October 09, 2014 in Hawthorne, California. >> The D will be able to accelerate to 60 miles per hour in just over 3 ... >> ] >> >> PALO ALTO -- Some loyal fans of Tesla Motors feel they have been misled. >> >> The innovative Silicon Valley company announced last week that every Model >> S >> rolling off its retooled assembly line includes a new hardware package that >> enables autopilot features. Prospective customers can also order the "D," >> an >> all-wheel-drive version of the electric vehicle. >> >> But some Model S owners, particularly those who recently got cars that >> don't >> include the new hardware package or missed out on the chance to order >> all-wheel drive, are crying foul. >> >> Among the most irate: customers who were ordering a Model S but say they >> were persuaded by Tesla sales reps in September to purchase a demo, >> inventory or loaner model instead, as well as those who claim they >> specifically asked Tesla if autopilot features or all-wheel drive would >> ever >> be an option on the Model S and, they say, were told no. >> >> A Tesla spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment. >> >> Tesla's blog states that "every single Model S now rolling out of the >> factory includes a forward radar, 12 long-range ultrasonic sensors >> positioned to sense 16 feet around the car in every direction at all >> speeds, >> a forward-looking camera and a high-precision, digitally controlled >> electric >> assist braking system." The new hardware, combined with future software >> releases, will allow Tesla to deliver a range of active safety features. >> >> Richard Wolpert of Los Angeles placed his order for a Model S in March and >> got his car in June. He says he specifically told Tesla sales reps that he >> was willing to wait for features like adaptive cruise control but was told >> they would not be an option on the Model S. >> >> "If Tesla had said it's coming, but we can't say exactly when, I would have >> waited," Wolpert said. "With 'traditional' car companies we know there are >> new models every year, and we factor that into our decision. With Tesla >> there was no talk or disclosure there would be effectively a 'new' Model S, >> so we bought blind." >> >> Wolpert launched a petition on Change.org asking Tesla to provide a >> retrofit >> for the new autopilot features for existing Model S owners. As of Wednesday >> afternoon, more than 600 people had signed it, including several from >> Norway, one of Tesla's key European markets. >> >> "Value of the car dropped overnight," Dag Rinden of Oslo, Norway, wrote on >> the petition. "The security equipment is important to get. Some of it >> should >> be easy to retrofit." >> >> Tesla does not have traditional model years for its vehicles and is >> constantly rolling out new features, including software-related >> improvements, that are provided to customers free of charge. Indeed, much >> of >> the excitement around the all-electric Model S is that it is constantly >> being improved. >> >> But several parts need to be installed or replaced to enable autopilot >> features, including the windshield, front and rear fascia and brake lines >> -- >> making a retrofit impractical. >> >> Tesla prides itself on customer service, and many owners interviewed said >> they were "escalating" their concerns and remained hopeful that Tesla would >> come up with a fair solution to their situations. >> >> Model S owners who missed out on the new features have been advised they >> can >> trade in their current Model S for a new one. But many say they have been >> quoted trade-in prices that would cost them thousands of dollars. >> >> Eric Brown of Irvine was under the impression that he was buying a "top of >> the line" Model S and was thrilled to get his car Sept. 29. On Oct. 1, CEO >> Elon Musk sent out a tweet saying it was "about time to unveil the D and >> something else." Tesla unveiled the autopilot features and all-wheel drive >> at a high-profile Los Angeles event Oct. 9. >> >> Brown is relatively lucky: His vehicle came with the autopilot features, a >> bonus that he wasn't expecting. His issue is that he wants all-wheel drive. >> >> "I feel that Tesla dropped the ball on the announcement because it seems >> they didn't consider the feelings and reaction of customers who had just >> taken delivery of their vehicles," said Brown, 28, who is now considering >> trading in a car with just 300 miles on the odometer. "The company is >> moving >> in the right direction -- they just upset some of their customers with the >> time frame on the release of the D." >> >> To be sure, not all Tesla loyalists or Model S owners are upset, noting >> that >> the speed of innovation at the company is something that should be >> applauded. >> >> "If you want a car that changes only once every year, go buy something >> besides a Tesla and stop telling Elon how to run his business," one poster >> wrote on Tesla's blog. >> >> A counter petition -- asking Tesla Motors to disregard the retrofit >> petition >> -- has been launched on Change.org as well. >> >> "This is ludicrous," wrote Brian Sherin of Santa Cruz. " It's like saying >> Apple has to give original iPhone owners a new iPhone every time the model >> is upgraded." >> >> Some analysts say the complaining is not a big deal. >> >> "Grousing about AWD is a non-starter. The X (an SUV expected next year) is >> AWD and this D model is just a way to test the AWD platform before it goes >> into production in the X," said Theo O'Neill, an analyst with Ascendiant >> Capital Markets. "On the other hand, this is the kind of grousing you hear >> in the service department at your BMW dealer. These customers are picky, >> and >> it just means that Tesla is now a real car company." >> >> Mihail Mihaylov, 36, of Chicago, spent roughly $140,000 for a fully loaded >> Model S Performance model and got his car Sept. 29. When he learned that >> Musk had announced autopilot features, he drove to the Villa Park, >> Illinois, >> service center to see if his car was autopilot-enabled, but was told his >> car >> does not have the hardware required. A Tesla salesperson offered him a >> trade-in for about $110,000 -- something Mihaylov finds unacceptable. >> >> "The Model S now has these new features, but mine doesn't have it," >> Mihaylov >> said. "So some people got lucky, and I am not so lucky. I've had the car >> for >> two weeks, and it has less than 1,000 miles on it, and it is already >> devalued. We are talking here a lot of money." >> [© Monterey County Herald] >> >> >> >> >> For EVLN posts use: >> http://evdl.org/evln/ >> >> http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble+template%2FNamlServlet.jtp%3Fmacro%3Dsearch_page%26node%3D413529%26query%3DEVLN%2Bbrucedp2%26days%3D0%26sort%3Ddate >> >> >> http://business.scoop.co.nz/2015/03/05/bridges-pushes-nz-as-most-ready-for-electric-cars/ >> Bridges pushes NZ as 'most ready' for EVs >> >> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11412263 >> >> >> http://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/Kelowna/15/03/04/Kelowna_s_Getting_the_Job_Done_on_Electric_Bikes >> City of kelowna.ca Electric Bike Fleet> Cruising around save money >> >> http://ecomento.com/2015/03/04/tesla-2000-superchargers-worldwide/ >> Tesla celebrates 2,000 Superchargers worldwide (w/infographic) >> + >> EVLN: $33.5k or $229mo Cheaper VW e-Golf Limited Edition Trim r:83mi >> + >> EVLN: BBC-TG-Clarkson suspended> mislead the public about Tesla EVs >> >> >> {brucedp.150m.com} >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-S-drivers-crying-foul-Grousing-is-ludicrous-tp4674199.html >> Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150312/ab1ac43d/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
