Sorry, didn't get a chance to finish. You may be correct about EVs, but give it time - there's no turning back. The cost delta is shrinking, and some great cars are being produced that raise the bar - Tesla comes to mind. High cost, and maybe not as Musk had promised, but no boxy car.
And remember, the interest in the innovative Prius took awhile. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Ben Goren <b...@trumpetpower.com> wrote: > >> On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:25 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> wrote: >> >> I'm not understanding why you have a problem with Honda developing their >> line based on consumer demand, or the most profit. Don't you understand that >> this is how all the automakers compete, not to mention companies in other >> fields? > > Automakers also drive demand. > > You know one of the big reasons people are buying ICE rather than EV? EVs are > perceived as wimpy oversized golf cars. And, save for Tesla, they're all made > as econoboxes, more or less. Even BMW, one of the icons of powerful luxury > vehicles...their EV is a dinky little thing that's smaller than the very > definition of wimpy econoboxes: the classic aircooled VW Bug. > > Honestly, there's absolutely no reason why this should be so. Just look at > the Zombie 222 project to see how a few (not-so-)random schmucks can turn a > 50-year-old hunk of legendary Detroit steel into something faster than > anything that has _ever_ left a Detroit factory even to this day. And they'll > sell you one of your own for about the price of a Tesla. > > If they can do that, what the hell is the problem with the big manufacturers? > It should be trivial for them to make electric versions of their own modern > production muscle cars -- and to make them absolutely smoke the ICE versions. > And sell them for less, after subsidies, than the top-of-the-line ICE > versions, and still with plenty of range for commuting. > > Imagine if Ford made a fifteen-second SuperBowl commercial for the all-new > 2017 electric Mustang, consisting of nothing more than a drag race between it > and an ICE Dodge Hellcat. The demand for *that* EV would be instant...and > gasoline would suddenly be that old-n-busted stuff that gramps used to have > to drive to get twice a day uphill through the snow to put in his lame-ass > last-century slowboat. Electric or go home. > > Great that Ford has electrified a Focus, that Honda has the Fit, Nissan the > Leaf, BMW the i3, Chevy the Spark, and so on. Wonderful little cars. And we > all know that there's a lot more to them than meets the eye. > > But there's not a one of them that the archetypal 18-35 demographic would > pick to be seen in on a date. Those aren't even Mom cars...they're the sort > of thing bland generic middle-aged resigned-to-be-boring office drones drive > to their cube farms and back to their apartment complexes in quiet > desperation. Probably even with a prized red stapler hidden in the glove box. > > ...and we're surprised that there's no demand, no excitement for EVs...why, > exactly? > > b& _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
