From GreenCarReports:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1084757_nyc-bans-electric-bikes-again-launches-bike-sharing-system

The law covers any electric bicycle that has a throttle, possibly exempting pedal assist bikes. If so, that would be much more reasonable. From my perspective, an ebike with a throttle is a scooter or moped.

Peri

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From: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
To: "Cor van de Water" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 11-Jul-15 7:42:29 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & ebicycles

Yes, the article seems to be inaccurate. According to Cor's citation, ebikes can (and should) be registered. The only clear statement is that they are not allowed to ride on sidewalks. It is not clear whether they are allowed to ride on streets (as opposed to bikeways). I presume yes.

It sounds like there's a bunch of whining because people riding ebikes are supposed to follow traffic laws and not ride on sidewalks. Technically, in site of the article's slant, I don't see anything about them being prohibited in NYC.

Peri

------ Original Message ------
From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <[email protected]>
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Sent: 11-Jul-15 1:27:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & ebicycles

Hi Bruce,
Your quote from the CA CVC only contains the first half, for paragraph 406(a) which talks about vehicles that can go 30 MPH and for which a Motorcycle license is required. The more typical e-Bike that goes no faster than 20 MPH falls under par 406(b)
and does not require a license, only a $18 one-time fee:

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 A "motorized bicycle" or "moped" is:

A two or three-wheeled device, capable of no more than 30 mph on level ground, and equipped with:

    - Fully operative pedals for human propulsion.
- A motor producing less than two gross brake horsepower and an automatic transmission. - An electric motor, with or without pedals for human propulsion. (CVC §406(a))

Driver must have a motorcycle license (M1 or M2).

A "motorized bicycle" is also defined as a vehicle with pedals and an electric motor (not more than 1,000 watts) which cannot be driven at speeds of more than 20 mph on level ground even if assisted by human power. (CVC §406(b)).

If you operate a motorized bicycle which meets the definition of CVC §406(b), you:
- Must be 16 years of age or older.
- Must wear a properly fitted and fastened bicycle helmet.
- Are exempt from the motor vehicle financial responsibility, driver license, and moped plate requirements (CVC §12804.9).

A motorized bicycle is issued special license plates and identification cards, which requires a one-time $18 fee. No renewal is required.
==================================================================

Cor van de Water
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-police-crackdown-illegal-scooters-article-1.2279900
EXCLUSIVE: Police begin crackdown on illegal scooters and electric bikes
BY Molly Crane-newman , Thomas Tracy  July 3, 2015

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http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2279899.1435879110!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/scooter3n-1-web.jpg
Riding a scooter can now result in a ticket and police seizing the vehicle. If the scooter is used for a delivery, the restaurant owner or manager will
be slapped with a summons.
]

Buzz off!
The NYPD has begun a crackdown on illegal electric bikes and the restaurants that use them, according to internal documents reviewed by the Daily News.

Cops have been given orders on how to issue tickets and seize the scooters seen buzzing up and down city streets and sidewalks. The goal is to increase
"public safety by enforcing laws pertaining to the use of motorized
scooters/electric bikes," the NYPD documents show.

The electric bikes or e-bikes, which are powered by both pedals and small electric motors, can't be registered with the Department of Motor Vehicles,
police said, meaning they're illegal on city streets and sidewalks.

"Technically they can't be registered and they can't be considered bicycles because they are not solely powered by human power," said a high-ranking NYPD source. "It's a problem that we get a lot of complaints about. We try
to confiscate them as soon as we see them."

Police officers are being told to give environmental control board
violations for riding a motorized scooter in New York City - which comes with a stiff $500 fine. If those operating the e-bikes are seen driving on
the sidewalks or ignoring traffic signals, they may face motor vehicle
operations as well, the orders state.

If a scooter is being used by a delivery person, cops are ordered to locate the employee's restaurant and issue a summons to "the manager or owner of
(the) business who has knowledge of the employee's actions."

Some residents hailed the initiative, claiming that the electric bike riders
are out of control.

"They're always going the wrong way," said Mark Barbian, 58, of Park Slope, Brooklyn. "We live on a one-way street and there's a couple restaurants up
on the corner, and when they deliver, they come up the wrong way quite
often. I don't want to hit them (with my car)."

Some restaurant owners were outraged by the initiative, claiming the
electric bikes are essential to their business.

"We will have to stop delivering," said Rahman Maksedur, 26, the manager of the Kinara Indian Restaurant on Fifth Ave. in Park Slope. "(Without them) we
couldn't go too far away. We would go like five blocks or six blocks."
[© nydailynews.com]



% CA registers them as mopeds, but NY laws are archaic:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles
 A "motorized bicycle" or "moped" is:
A two or three-wheeled device, capable of no more than 30 mph on level
ground, and equipped with: ...
- An electric motor, with or without pedals for human propulsion. (CVC
§406(a))

http://dmv.ny.gov/registration/motorized-devices-cannot-be-registered-new-york
Motorized devices that cannot be registered in New York ...
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