On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Only if the Golf Cart and dump-pack are FULLY discharged every day.

Hmmm...I don't think that's quite right, but the basic point you make is a good 
one. If the car has, say, a 300 mile range, and the fixed generation system 
makes an average of 50 miles of range per day and you drive an average of 50 
miles per day, that's going to be pretty much optimal -- even though the 
batteries are never going below 80% of full charge.

> That is why NET metering is the best economics hands down.

Fully agreed -- but, of course, only where it's an option. It's the rate plan 
I'm personally on. However, thanks to intense private lobbying by the Koch 
Brothers...were my neighbors to install similar systems today, though they'd 
technically be on a net metering rate plan, they'd actually wind up spending 
80% of whatever they do today regardless of how much net they generate. The new 
plans have insane instantaneous peak / load factor / etc. surcharges that're 
guaranteed to make rooftop solar a complete waste of money.

Utilities are doing this in a _very_ shortsighted attempt to prevent grid 
defection...but it's too late. Already, my neighbors would have about the same 
return on investment if they cut the grid connection and went to batteries as 
they would have a couple decades ago with grid-tie solar. The cost of a grid 
connection for new construction is so insane that it can't even pretend to 
compete with battery-backed solar; the grid hookup alone can cost more than the 
batteries, maybe even more than the total solar+battery installation cost -- 
and that's before you consider the value of a lifetime of free unmetered energy.

So...the grid is going to die, and it's the utilities themselves that are going 
to kill it. It's a shame...but at least we all get limitless free electricity 
(after initial capital investment) no matter what happens to the grid.

Cheers,

b&
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